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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg with gene and with

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Chris we're back assessing the impact of

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last week's episode featuring Thomas

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Fusco and it's interesting how you look

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at listener reactions to a show some

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people love what he said

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some people said you know what this guy

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is just an amateur

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and maybe he doesn't have much to

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support what he says interesting

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collection of viewpoints takes all kinds

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in fact one guy said this is just an

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example of somebody who didn't like what

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he had to say this guy science is so bad

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it was hard not to laugh he really needs

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a formal education to get on a radio

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show and spout utter nonsense his

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science speaks to his ignorance except

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for one thing of course he doesn't

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provide a single example of where this

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guy science was so bad

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well I think he was kind of cutting to

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the chase a little bit and wasn't fully

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explaining I think some of his concepts

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and ideas it's difficult to get on a

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two-hour three-hour radio show and

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explain all the mysteries of the

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universe in such a way that you're not

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gonna be talking down or up to people

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but trying to talk to everyone so you

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know I mean he seems very very endearing

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and very he's very upbeat he's a really

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nice guy at a good time chatting with

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him in Minnesota at the paradigm

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symposium so you know it's refreshing to

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get somebody who's looking at this

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building an array of subjects in a new

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and kind of open sort of fresh way so I

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mean the guys the guys given it you know

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his best shot it's a lot more than some

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people are

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thing to do got a lot of armchair

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quarterbacks out there who seemed to

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think that they they know better than

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everyone and nobody in particular that

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I'm referring to but I've noticed in the

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years that I've been in this field

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there's a lot of people that that seem

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to really think that their opinion is

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worth something you know we all have

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opinions and of course everyone is

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entitled to one but at least Thomas is

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getting out there and he's really

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attempting to share some of his ideas

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and and move forward and get the word

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out instead of sitting at home twiddling

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their thumbs or whatever so you have to

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you have to at least you know give him a

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nod for that and I just you know I enjoy

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talking with him and I think he does

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need to maybe flesh out some of his

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ideas a little bit and possibly dive

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into some more heavy-duty science

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instead of kind of referring to things

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in passing you know one of the things of

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course that he doesn't want to do is

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tell you about his background and the

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assumption one makes therefore is that

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he doesn't have an educational

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background in the fields that he studies

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which is not necessarily a bad thing

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because a lot of times as he suggests if

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you study a specific field you have a

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bit of tunnel vision there you only know

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what happens in your little corner of

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the world and you don't look at the

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entire picture

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there's too much specialization we don't

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know it would be nice if he gave us more

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of a hint about having a background

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though you know we don't want to make up

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anything and I guess with some people

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who are busy making up their credentials

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and implying that they are something

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other than what they are I guess that

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could work against him unless he has you

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know five doctorates or something in

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every field that he covers you know well

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I for some reason I was under the

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impression he was actually an educator

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at some point that he had had Titan as a

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teacher I could be wrong in that regard

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but in order to do that I would think

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that he would need at least some

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some form of degrees so the guy's very

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well-spoken you know he doesn't come

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across as as trying to be something that

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he's not which is refreshing it doesn't

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matter tend to be a know-it-all no he

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doesn't and and he's very enthusiastic

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which I like I think a lot of people in

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this field tend to get a little bit long

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in the tooth and you know I speaking

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from personal experience you get

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involved in this field for 20 years or

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more you start to get a little jaded and

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and thin-skinned and uh you know it's

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hard to sort of maintain a a sense of

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freshness and a sense of open-mindedness

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about your own work and your own

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thinking so it's it's good to see new

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people getting involved in the field

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this is not for everybody and it says as

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we both know we've seen plenty of people

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over the years go by the wayside because

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these subjects just burn you out and you

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like this book to get done is just it's

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just never-ending

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and if you let it get to you it can

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really kind of put a damper on your day

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so I can appreciate his enthusiasm at

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the very least you know one of the

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things you do see in this field is where

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people become so wedded to their belief

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system that when you do get evidence

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that indicates what they believe may not

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be correct if they are very unwilling to

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change you know the amount of a lecture

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circuit they obviously make some income

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from that and they have staked a lot on

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particular pieces of evidence and if

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someday something comes around says no

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it's not the case they don't get up

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there which I think they should and say

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you know what I want to know the truth

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and I've learned that this maybe was

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given too much credibility I think a

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person would look better to be honest

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about it but that just me no well you

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know there are plenty of examples I

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think that we've you know raised over

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the over the years that

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kind of gives you know illustrate

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exactly what you're saying sometimes

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it's it's very difficult to become as

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you put it wedded to an idea I have that

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I that particular mode of thinking be

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called into question and possibly

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evidence comes up that really calls it

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into question it's very difficult at

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times to to admit that possibly you'd

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been barking up the wrong tree I mean

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the many examples bring to mind Stanton

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Friedman the mj-12 documents I think

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that's a big example yeah and I think

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Stanton Friedman does really good work

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he's very very sincere I don't see any

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evidence that he does anything that is

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ever less than honest no but he's just

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too wedded to mj-12 you know and I think

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at some point in time he's got to go

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back and look over that situation see

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what's really going on I don't know how

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long we can wait because you know he's

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not the youngest guy in the world and

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maybe this is it for him

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this is his point of view this is his

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presentation and let's let the next

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generation take over you know that's his

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story and he's sticking to it how I

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don't know the more I've checked this

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field out the more I find that you know

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maybe things are not what they seem no

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yeah that's that's that's what I'm

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finding out I mean I'm been working my

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tail off here on this book on the cattle

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mutilation mystery and the more I get

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into it the more confusing that I

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actually feel that it's it's it's so

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much more complicated than the average

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person with just a peripheral knowledge

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of this subject matter to many people I

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think have just automatically assumed

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that it's one answer or another and you

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know all these different answers no none

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of them work and to the exclusion of the

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others so you know it's it's

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mind-numbing territory and you really

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have to take a step back every now and

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then and reassess and and unfortunately

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I think people that are in this as a

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career are unable to do that and

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I've often said that anybody who you

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know this is their sole source of income

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is you know lecturing about you know

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these these people that these misfeeds

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that we cover on the pair of cast you

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you just got to reassess sometimes we're

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going to assess this next gentleman who

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works with Thomas Fusco by the way he is

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coming back for his second appearance on

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the para cast he's David Roundtree and

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he's part of something called spirit lab

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and he's a real audio engineer has a

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real education a real background and

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he's got lots of insights to offer about

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spirit phenomena EVP lots more he's also

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worked very closely with last week's

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guest Thomas Fusco so this is going to

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be fascinating David Rountree coming up

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natural antibiotics but the mainstream

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information why many drug companies and

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politicians have dangerous alliances

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prescribing drugs that only manage

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para cast comm now on last week's

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episode with Thomas Fusco he mentioned

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that he does a lot of work with a fellow

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named David Roundtree who's got a whole

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bunch of credentials here such as AES

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which is Audio Engineering Society I

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hope I got that right director chief

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science advisors scientific paranormal

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investigative research information and

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Technology which stands for spirit okay

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see he's a lab guy and he does

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measurements and stuff things we need in

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the paranormal field David as someone

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who has a real credential as an audio

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engineer what led you to this corner of

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the world and oh my god that's that's a

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long and convoluted story I started out

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as a kid I had an experience where my

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grandfather came and said goodbye to me

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one night when I was seven years old and

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I found out the next day he had died

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that night so that kind of started me

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wandering and then by the time I was

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eight years old my family moved to

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Florida my next-door neighbor was a

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professor and he had a library filled

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with books on every subject imaginable

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on the paranormal from the late 1800s to

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1960s which was the period that I was

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growing up in so I read everything he

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had and when I got older I decided that

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I would gear my education towards

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learning disciplines and skills that

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would be usable to try to understand

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exactly what was going on in the

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paranormal because I was curious okay so

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tell us the disciplines why audio for

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example

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well audio engineering was a byproduct

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of my my bachelor's degree which was

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electrical engineering and I had

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specialized in audio and acoustic

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engineering to make a living I spent

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about 30 years on the road doing live

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production work concerts TV you name it

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dance companies whatever paid I did I

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also was a lighting director at the time

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and designed lighting systems as well

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but did that and eventually got a

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master's in it probably one of the top

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audio engineers on the east coast of the

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United States so I have an actual day

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job career but I also started to study

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quantum mechanics and physics and degree

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in physics as well working on a PhD in

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physics right now so all right

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so of course we have for a few people in

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the paranormal field who tell us about

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all their great degrees which certainly

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certainly do not exist I've heard a few

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of those cases that's correct a lot of

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that out there so were you taking your

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PhD from well I don't like to talk about

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my colleges because they have asked me

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not to mention them on the air but I

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will say that I am a gator alumni and

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let people take it from there all right

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currently I live in New Jersey and I am

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studying at a university in New Jersey

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sounds like a place my brother might

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actually people called my my alma mater

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and harassed them trying to get

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information on my academic background

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and stuff and you know it's not cool

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when you're trying to further education

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to have that sort of thing happened and

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be associated with the paranormal when

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you're in a science discipline so it's

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not the kind of thing I've put out okay

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so how do we apply this your background

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in audio and engineering and lighting to

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the things that you study in the

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paranormal field

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well audio engineering was something

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that I went into really because I

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enjoyed doing it on I understood it and

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had a lot of fun working at it but my

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primary

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because of research in 1976 when I

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started you know researching the

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paranormal was an EVP back then it was

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called a rod of a voice

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the term EVP had not become a popular

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colloquialism at that time but I was

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under the impression that it was not

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found' I'm basically from my academic

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background and so I I wanted to prove

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what it really was

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and I wasn't able to prove what it was

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back in 1976 but I proved what it wasn't

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and what I proved that it wasn't was

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sound and how I did that was by

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utilizing a bell jar and creating a

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vacuum on the microphone inside of it

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and was still able to record EVP and as

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everybody knows well most everybody

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knows that sound requires a medium to

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propagate so without air in the jar

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there's no medium therefore there's no

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propagation of sound so consequently we

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were able to prove that it wasn't found

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but we couldn't prove what I kind of

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thought it was because we didn't have

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the technology available back then to do

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that let's go into more of what it was

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well it wasn't until early in the early

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2000s around 2001 where I actually had

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enough technology software and equipment

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to where I could literally look for what

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I thought it was I always was under the

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belief that EVP was caused by EMF in the

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audio spectrum and in order to prove

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that I had to set up a series of of

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tests where I would sample pure audio

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which meant the time we were using

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laboratory measurement condenser

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microphones which will not pick up any

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kind of electromagnetic field dynamic

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microphones which do pick up

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electromagnetic fields through their

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voice coil and detection coils and then

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I was able to run those through a

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software package that allowed me to look

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at up to 16 channels of independent

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information so that I could correlate

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background EMF to any EVP that was

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courted through the dynamic microphones

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and then I had a control audio signal

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which was recorded by the condenser mics

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so I was able to determine that by

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comparing these different inputs that

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the EMF was actually causing the EVP

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because I was getting the same waveform

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in the coils as I was getting the

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dynamic microphones but it's not sound

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in the way that we consider sound it's

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not found at all sound as mechanical

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energy its acoustical energy EVP is

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electromagnetic energy it's a completely

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different kind of energy altogether

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for example sound travels at roughly

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about 660 miles an hour at sea level

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depending on the atmospheric conditions

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and the temperature EMF travels at the

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speed of light so it's a completely

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different type of energy and the energy

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itself is electromagnetic in nature on a

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versus mechanical nature which sound is

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the movement of air it's literally you

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have that physical movement to push air

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having gone that far have you been able

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to quantify this with scientific papers

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and evidence so independent people can

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go back and look it over and see what

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they think

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well we don't have anything you know

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like a scientific paper written up about

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it but we have several articles that

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show the correlation and explain the

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actual techniques that we use so other

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people can you know reproduce it but I'm

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not the only one that now has come to

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this conclusion since we made our

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announcement there's been numerous other

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groups that have confirmed that you know

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EVP is in fact an EMF well welcome to

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the show David this is crystal Bryan

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here like one of the things that I found

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that skeptics often doubt is that the

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cheaper the microphone or the handheld

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digital recorder the more prevalent the

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EVPs tend to be what you're describing

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would would would kind of fly in the

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face of that and and suggest that

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there's something other than

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confabulation and bad circuitry and you

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know operating here well there's two

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things that occur one people confuse

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artifacts with EVP they have David

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Rountree

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567
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568
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569
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570
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571
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572
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573
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Keep Calm today my name is Bruno I'm 52

574
00:26:04,510 --> 00:26:03,080
years old I've tried different protein

575
00:26:06,460 --> 00:26:04,520
powders over the years and they've all

576
00:26:08,289 --> 00:26:06,470
tasted pretty bad I tried one world away

577
00:26:10,419 --> 00:26:08,299
and found it to be delicious after ten

578
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:10,429
weeks on one world way my wife commented

579
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:12,080
you have more muscles and you're leaner

580
00:26:16,539 --> 00:26:14,210
than when you were 20 years old my body

581
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:16,549
has changed dramatically I'm a cyclist

582
00:26:20,919 --> 00:26:18,710
normally I'll ride two days on and take

583
00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:20,929
two days off after being on one world

584
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,270
way I wrote 10 days in a row and over

585
00:26:27,490 --> 00:26:25,520
100 degree heat and then I take another

586
00:26:29,139 --> 00:26:27,500
two servings of one world away and then

587
00:26:31,180 --> 00:26:29,149
work out at the gym for another hour and

588
00:26:33,549 --> 00:26:31,190
a half I just couldn't believe these

589
00:26:35,409 --> 00:26:33,559
results my normal muscle tightness and

590
00:26:38,139 --> 00:26:35,419
soreness after working out are virtually

591
00:26:40,330 --> 00:26:38,149
gone don't take my word for it one real

592
00:26:42,460 --> 00:26:40,340
way comes in single servings just give

593
00:26:44,649 --> 00:26:42,470
it a try for a health and taste

594
00:26:46,690 --> 00:26:44,659
sensation you'll love call eight eight

595
00:26:48,610 --> 00:26:46,700
eight nine eight eight three three two

596
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:48,620
five that's eight eight eight nine eight

597
00:26:52,029 --> 00:26:50,510
eight three three two five that's eight

598
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:52,039
eight eight nine eight eight three three

599
00:27:02,230 --> 00:26:56,090
two five or visit one world wacom that's

600
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:02,240
One World wh ey comm hi this is Don

601
00:27:07,270 --> 00:27:04,970
Ecker and you are tuned into the para

602
00:27:10,270 --> 00:27:07,280
cast let me tell you what you're gonna

603
00:27:13,210 --> 00:27:10,280
hear stuff here that you probably won't

604
00:27:16,750 --> 00:27:13,220
hear anywhere else hear that George

605
00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:16,760
snoring there was no truth to the rumor

606
00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:21,950
that Chris O'Brien is a living EVP now

607
00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:25,190
you we're starting a long answer to a

608
00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:27,320
long question David Rountree

609
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:29,750
maybe pick up on that frame and let's

610
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:30,770
see where we go with it

611
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:32,810
yeah they you know a lot of people use

612
00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:34,570
cheap reporters they use these little

613
00:27:39,370 --> 00:27:36,830
olympus recorders that are designed to

614
00:27:41,950 --> 00:27:39,380
be voice like voice memo recorders and

615
00:27:44,350 --> 00:27:41,960
they claim that they get all these EVPs

616
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:44,360
off of them but but the reality is on

617
00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:47,330
these things is that a lot of people

618
00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:51,080
hear artifacts and then when they hear

619
00:27:54,730 --> 00:27:52,430
these artifacts due to a condition

620
00:27:57,820 --> 00:27:54,740
called pareidolia which is our brain

621
00:28:00,520 --> 00:27:57,830
trying to make order out of chaos they

622
00:28:03,910 --> 00:28:00,530
start to hear things and then they call

623
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:03,920
it like a Class C or a Class B EVP it's

624
00:28:08,830 --> 00:28:05,930
spirit lab we have no classification you

625
00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:08,840
either have an EVP or you don't and how

626
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:11,900
we test an EVP is we will blind send it

627
00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:13,730
to five people on our email list and

628
00:28:19,150 --> 00:28:16,190
tell them what do they hear and if we

629
00:28:22,270 --> 00:28:19,160
get five similar answers back then we

630
00:28:24,340 --> 00:28:22,280
consider it a legitimate EVP cheaper

631
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:24,350
recorders and cheaper equipment are

632
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:26,480
going to give you a cheaper results if

633
00:28:32,770 --> 00:28:29,890
you don't use an external microphone any

634
00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:32,780
EVP you may get it is because you are

635
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:34,790
picking it up from the unshielded mic

636
00:28:41,230 --> 00:28:38,030
preamp in the device itself we use a

637
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:41,240
fairly decent recorder we use a tascam

638
00:28:49,890 --> 00:28:46,730
dr recorder that we use and we always

639
00:28:51,070 --> 00:28:49,900
use an external mixer and we use two

640
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:51,080
audax

641
00:28:57,580 --> 00:28:55,250
four microphones to do our EVP work we

642
00:29:01,720 --> 00:28:57,590
also record two channels of condenser

643
00:29:04,390 --> 00:29:01,730
microphone tracks as a control so that

644
00:29:08,350 --> 00:29:04,400
we can correlate between what is sound

645
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:08,360
and what is actually EVP the EVPs when

646
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:09,650
you compare the

647
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:11,840
the four waveforms the EVPs will stick

648
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:15,170
out in the dynamic files and they're not

649
00:29:17,890 --> 00:29:16,850
present in the condenser files so

650
00:29:21,070 --> 00:29:17,900
instead of having it sitting there and

651
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:21,080
listen to hours and hours of audio you

652
00:29:26,110 --> 00:29:23,090
can visually scan through your files and

653
00:29:28,660 --> 00:29:26,120
locate your EVPs pretty quickly by doing

654
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,670
that that's pretty convenient well it

655
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:30,320
saves a lot of time particularly I've

656
00:29:33,850 --> 00:29:32,090
got five or six recorders and you know

657
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:33,860
eight hours each of recorded material

658
00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:36,320
long look I've done some work with

659
00:29:41,410 --> 00:29:37,580
michael esposito

660
00:29:44,530 --> 00:29:41,420
who was based in chicago and over the

661
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:44,540
years he has I think in my estimation at

662
00:29:50,620 --> 00:29:47,360
least with with a bit of a background in

663
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:50,630
audio myself he's really been able to

664
00:29:57,700 --> 00:29:54,050
capture some some pretty compelling as

665
00:30:00,340 --> 00:29:57,710
they'll describe Class A EVPs where have

666
00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:00,350
you found the most productive locations

667
00:30:06,850 --> 00:30:04,430
to get EVP what is your methodology and

668
00:30:09,610 --> 00:30:06,860
how do you determine where to go you

669
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:09,620
know we don't we don't do investigations

670
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:12,110
that's the first thing we do research

671
00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:13,970
they're two different animals

672
00:30:18,910 --> 00:30:16,390
we usually get called in by a

673
00:30:20,980 --> 00:30:18,920
investigative group to bring our

674
00:30:24,340 --> 00:30:20,990
equipment and to run a detailed analysis

675
00:30:26,410 --> 00:30:24,350
of the location we use very little human

676
00:30:28,090 --> 00:30:26,420
interaction when we go and because our

677
00:30:30,430 --> 00:30:28,100
instrumentation detects human

678
00:30:32,020 --> 00:30:30,440
interaction I mean if we have a person

679
00:30:34,420 --> 00:30:32,030
go into the room while we're measuring

680
00:30:37,180 --> 00:30:34,430
in the room and we measure many things

681
00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:37,190
besides EVP we can tell it affects our

682
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:38,600
instrumentation so there's a human

683
00:30:42,730 --> 00:30:40,850
element involved in it it's not that we

684
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:42,740
don't have people go in from time to

685
00:30:47,020 --> 00:30:45,410
time we do but we also insert markers in

686
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:47,030
the data so that we know that people

687
00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:50,810
were present during that data set we

688
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:52,550
also wire our people with individual

689
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:54,170
voice recorders so that we can eliminate

690
00:31:00,130 --> 00:30:57,050
any of their audio from being mistaken

691
00:31:01,690 --> 00:31:00,140
for false positives in uvp but we get

692
00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:01,700
called in to a site that's already been

693
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:03,230
determined to have activity by an

694
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:04,790
investigative group and then we go in

695
00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:06,320
and do a detailed analysis of the

696
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:09,590
location and we set up a battery of

697
00:31:14,110 --> 00:31:12,290
equipment to measure different aspects

698
00:31:16,330 --> 00:31:14,120
of the environment using data logging

699
00:31:19,330 --> 00:31:16,340
devices which allows us to have a

700
00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:19,340
continuous unbroken stream of data for

701
00:31:23,050 --> 00:31:20,540
all the different sensors that we're

702
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:23,060
using you know for a later correlation

703
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:23,600
between

704
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:25,490
any personal experience it may happen

705
00:31:30,730 --> 00:31:28,070
any other experience that's undocumented

706
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:30,740
or you know subjective in nature as well

707
00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:33,290
as all of the objective data that's

708
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:35,720
collected by the cameras the data

709
00:31:39,610 --> 00:31:37,910
recorders and everything else so it's a

710
00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:39,620
little bit different mindset we don't

711
00:31:43,630 --> 00:31:41,300
run around jumping up and down saying oh

712
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:43,640
I have a spike we're literally looking

713
00:31:48,250 --> 00:31:46,310
at the EMF waveforms determining what

714
00:31:50,290 --> 00:31:48,260
the frequency of those waveforms are and

715
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:50,300
then locating the emergence point of

716
00:31:55,570 --> 00:31:52,910
those waveforms in the location where

717
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:55,580
David when people call you in precisely

718
00:32:02,680 --> 00:31:59,120
what are they seeing that they feel fits

719
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:02,690
into your area of expertise well they'll

720
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:04,490
have different experiences such as

721
00:32:09,310 --> 00:32:07,010
they'll encounter environmental

722
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:09,320
differentials like coal spots or they'll

723
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,210
they'll find they'll have telekinetic

724
00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:14,240
activity where objects move or they may

725
00:32:22,330 --> 00:32:17,420
have visual stimulation where they see a

726
00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:22,340
type of what you might call a type of

727
00:32:28,570 --> 00:32:25,430
projective image or what people call it

728
00:32:30,190 --> 00:32:28,580
ghosts that sort of thing so when they

729
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:30,200
have these kinds of experiences they

730
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:32,450
can't explain and then they have some

731
00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:34,730
handheld data that would seem to

732
00:32:38,380 --> 00:32:36,230
indicate that something a little amiss

733
00:32:40,150 --> 00:32:38,390
is going on they generally would call us

734
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:40,160
in to do a detailed analysis or the

735
00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:43,760
owner does of the property after that so

736
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:45,830
were you going to call and you're the

737
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:50,710
Ghostbuster well we're not Ghost Busters

738
00:32:55,660 --> 00:32:53,600
we don't bust anything we literally go

739
00:32:57,610 --> 00:32:55,670
in and we try to determine exactly what

740
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,620
the truth is at the situation we're not

741
00:33:02,710 --> 00:32:59,120
really hunting for anything but the

742
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:02,720
truth even even no matter what we

743
00:33:07,090 --> 00:33:04,970
believe we may find we go in assuming

744
00:33:08,650 --> 00:33:07,100
that nothing paranormal is occurring and

745
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:08,660
we let the data convince us otherwise

746
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:12,110
but how do you correlate strange sounds

747
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:15,050
with physical effects such as cold spots

748
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:17,600
such as things moving around that they

749
00:33:22,450 --> 00:33:19,910
shouldn't be moving around well you have

750
00:33:23,950 --> 00:33:22,460
to take a preponderance of evidence it

751
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:23,960
takes a lot of data to make a

752
00:33:27,820 --> 00:33:26,480
determination as anything's going on you

753
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:27,830
literally just can't walk in with a

754
00:33:31,930 --> 00:33:29,510
couple pieces of equipment and declare

755
00:33:34,390 --> 00:33:31,940
something I mean you can but you're not

756
00:33:35,650 --> 00:33:34,400
really declaring anything we go in and

757
00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:35,660
we check different aspects of the

758
00:33:39,969 --> 00:33:37,159
environment we check gravity

759
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:39,979
three different axes not just gravity

760
00:33:44,349 --> 00:33:41,690
from the RF but gravity from three

761
00:33:45,789 --> 00:33:44,359
different directions we we check the

762
00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:45,799
Earth's magnetic field for fluctuations

763
00:33:52,330 --> 00:33:48,289
we check barometric pressure temperature

764
00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:52,340
humidity we look for gamma radiation we

765
00:33:58,269 --> 00:33:54,700
look for ultraviolet light we look for

766
00:34:01,359 --> 00:33:58,279
static energy we look for EMF we look

767
00:34:02,879 --> 00:34:01,369
for EVP we look for time fluctuations we

768
00:34:05,379 --> 00:34:02,889
look for a lot of different things and

769
00:34:08,319 --> 00:34:05,389
generally speaking these things occur in

770
00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:08,329
a very localized area of room when they

771
00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:11,030
do any activity tends to be within that

772
00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:14,750
realm of fluctuation of data and it's

773
00:34:19,539 --> 00:34:16,940
led me to come up with my theory about

774
00:34:22,419 --> 00:34:19,549
what causes you know paranormal activity

775
00:34:25,210 --> 00:34:22,429
of course Tom Fusco who is totally a

776
00:34:26,859 --> 00:34:25,220
theoretician had come up with similar

777
00:34:28,779 --> 00:34:26,869
predictions to what would occur in the

778
00:34:30,430 --> 00:34:28,789
environment and we actually met he found

779
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,440
out that my experiments were actually

780
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:32,839
proving an aspect of this theory okay so

781
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:34,609
that's correlate this very quickly here

782
00:34:41,289 --> 00:34:37,760
okay and that is if you measure

783
00:34:43,329 --> 00:34:41,299
something in a location you can say for

784
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:43,339
certain that some kind of paranormal

785
00:34:47,230 --> 00:34:45,200
activity is happening there there's no

786
00:34:49,569 --> 00:34:47,240
reverse situation where you see the

787
00:34:51,809 --> 00:34:49,579
paranormal activity but none of this

788
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:51,819
stuff is being measured

789
00:34:56,379 --> 00:34:54,649
you know the subjective experience is

790
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:56,389
very powerful but it doesn't have a lot

791
00:35:01,150 --> 00:34:56,960
of weight

792
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:01,160
evidence lines and it boils down to your

793
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:04,160
definition of evidence a lot of people

794
00:35:10,089 --> 00:35:07,240
may see something and it may be real but

795
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:10,099
there's no proof that they saw it it's a

796
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:12,770
personal experience it's subjective so

797
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:15,170
it's like an eyewitness account and

798
00:35:19,089 --> 00:35:17,089
while it has some weight to it it really

799
00:35:21,279 --> 00:35:19,099
doesn't hold a lot of water you know

800
00:35:24,220 --> 00:35:21,289
scientifically other than the person saw

801
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:24,230
something when you go in and you're

802
00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:27,770
looking at 12 to 14 different aspects of

803
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:29,990
the environment and every place in the

804
00:35:34,569 --> 00:35:31,910
room is staying normal except for a

805
00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:34,579
specific area in that room where stuff

806
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,950
is happening and your evidence said is a

807
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:38,480
whole lot stronger that's something

808
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,839
unusual is occurring there now in a

809
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:44,000
situation like this do you find and this

810
00:35:47,650 --> 00:35:45,410
is a question that will extend to our

811
00:35:49,779 --> 00:35:47,660
next segment do you ever find that

812
00:35:50,830 --> 00:35:49,789
people are just pulling the wool over

813
00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:50,840
your eyes

814
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:52,820
and how do you know they are because of

815
00:36:00,220 --> 00:35:55,280
the nature of what they tell you the

816
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:00,230
lack of this physical evidence what well

817
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:02,420
this is not my first rodeo I've been

818
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:05,510
doing this for 36 years I know what to

819
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:07,610
look for in the environment the whole

820
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idea of what we look for in the

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environment we determined we determined

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through experimentation through

823
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hypothetical thought process through

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working our way into developing a theory

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as to what actually is going on so when

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somebody tells me something I know

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exactly what type of environmental

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changes would be associated with that

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kind of phenomena at least historically

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you're listening to the podcast the gold

928
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standard a paranormal radio

929
00:41:29,140 --> 00:41:26,440
there he is mr. EVP the trickster

930
00:41:31,450 --> 00:41:29,150
himself making his presence known with

931
00:41:33,549 --> 00:41:31,460
David Rountree were looking at

932
00:41:37,420 --> 00:41:33,559
scientific aspects of paranormal

933
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:37,430
investigation and we're hunting not just

934
00:41:43,029 --> 00:41:39,890
ghosts but the effects they produce to

935
00:41:45,849 --> 00:41:43,039
find the physical phenomenon so to

936
00:41:48,849 --> 00:41:45,859
clarify this if you go to a place where

937
00:41:50,999 --> 00:41:48,859
they say they've seen things right you

938
00:41:54,430 --> 00:41:51,009
check it out there's nothing physically

939
00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:54,440
that seems to be strange you would then

940
00:42:01,209 --> 00:41:58,190
suspect the claim well I would I would

941
00:42:03,759 --> 00:42:01,219
initially but it doesn't necessarily

942
00:42:07,209 --> 00:42:03,769
mean that the claim isn't true you would

943
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,219
have to repeat visits if you did not get

944
00:42:10,479 --> 00:42:09,200
data several times under several

945
00:42:12,459 --> 00:42:10,489
different conditions at several

946
00:42:15,309 --> 00:42:12,469
different times of day in order to

947
00:42:18,370 --> 00:42:15,319
eliminate that as an option this stuff

948
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:18,380
doesn't you know perform at will it has

949
00:42:24,130 --> 00:42:21,049
a cyclic nature to it but it has a

950
00:42:25,690 --> 00:42:24,140
randomness about its cycle so if

951
00:42:27,219 --> 00:42:25,700
something came in and they claimed this

952
00:42:28,479 --> 00:42:27,229
thing was active all the time and there

953
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:28,489
was all this stuff happening and we got

954
00:42:33,819 --> 00:42:31,430
a Zippo or we may find something natural

955
00:42:35,620 --> 00:42:33,829
that maybe you know contributing to it

956
00:42:39,150 --> 00:42:35,630
like we've found tons of things like

957
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:39,160
carbon monoxide leaks we found

958
00:42:44,229 --> 00:42:41,359
situations where there was super high

959
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:44,239
levels of radon things that could cause

960
00:42:50,170 --> 00:42:47,210
types loosenin genetic behavior and a

961
00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:50,180
human being so we have discovered things

962
00:42:55,269 --> 00:42:53,390
that were natural explanations for some

963
00:42:56,620 --> 00:42:55,279
of the things that occur but if we go in

964
00:42:58,029 --> 00:42:56,630
and we're looking for different aspects

965
00:43:01,029 --> 00:42:58,039
of the environment to change and it

966
00:43:02,589 --> 00:43:01,039
doesn't and we can't find it and we we

967
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:02,599
have some pretty sophisticated equipment

968
00:43:07,749 --> 00:43:04,729
for looking for it if we don't find that

969
00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:07,759
we're immediately suspect as to the

970
00:43:11,650 --> 00:43:09,950
nature of the solidity of the

971
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:11,660
information that was given to us in the

972
00:43:15,219 --> 00:43:13,729
first place but again you can't make a

973
00:43:18,099 --> 00:43:15,229
snap judgment call on a first

974
00:43:20,410 --> 00:43:18,109
investigation or a first evaluation of a

975
00:43:22,660 --> 00:43:20,420
site you have to keep going back several

976
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:22,670
times in order to establish some type of

977
00:43:27,459 --> 00:43:26,089
pattern or control situation with it and

978
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:27,469
we've had it happen we've had people

979
00:43:31,569 --> 00:43:29,089
that you know basically they wanted to

980
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:31,579
be on TV and they told us a whole line

981
00:43:35,229 --> 00:43:33,710
of stuff you know to get their house

982
00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:35,239
looked at or to get their place of

983
00:43:38,110 --> 00:43:36,710
business with that and

984
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,120
we would go in and we would find no

985
00:43:42,490 --> 00:43:40,160
evidence for the claim they want the

986
00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:42,500
real ghost hunters to be there well they

987
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:44,150
want to be on TV you know in this day

988
00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:46,640
and time everyone wants to be on TV well

989
00:43:50,380 --> 00:43:48,230
speak for yourself I don't want to be on

990
00:43:54,970 --> 00:43:50,390
TV I want to frighten the audience okay

991
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:54,980
now have you ever tried to take that

992
00:43:59,980 --> 00:43:57,110
equipment and put it in the presence of

993
00:44:03,490 --> 00:43:59,990
other reported paranormal phenomena say

994
00:44:05,290 --> 00:44:03,500
UFOs so if there was efo sighting what

995
00:44:07,810 --> 00:44:05,300
would we measure I haven't ever had the

996
00:44:09,790 --> 00:44:07,820
opportunity well when we first started

997
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:09,800
in 1976 we looked at everything we

998
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,890
looked at cryptozoology we looked at and

999
00:44:16,540 --> 00:44:14,240
I use the word we because I've always

1000
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:16,550
had people working with me I've had

1001
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:18,290
assistants I've had other research

1002
00:44:24,820 --> 00:44:20,570
associates working with me we looked at

1003
00:44:26,590 --> 00:44:24,830
crypto bees we looked at you know other

1004
00:44:29,590 --> 00:44:26,600
types of phenomena like raining frogs

1005
00:44:31,810 --> 00:44:29,600
and things of that nature and we looked

1006
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:31,820
at you know the whole haunting phenomena

1007
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:34,970
as well as UFOs the problem with UFOs is

1008
00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:36,770
it's all after the fact

1009
00:44:40,450 --> 00:44:38,270
you're always investigating something

1010
00:44:43,090 --> 00:44:40,460
after it happens because you're never

1011
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:43,100
lucky enough to be in a location with

1012
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:45,110
equipment running when something appears

1013
00:44:48,490 --> 00:44:47,210
so you're always having to look for

1014
00:44:51,550 --> 00:44:48,500
trace evidence when you're dealing with

1015
00:44:53,950 --> 00:44:51,560
a UFO and primarily the only real

1016
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:53,960
evidence that I have ever seen trace

1017
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:55,850
evidence that you could find from any

1018
00:45:01,720 --> 00:44:59,680
type of UFO encounter was radiation

1019
00:45:03,820 --> 00:45:01,730
abnormally higher levels of radiation

1020
00:45:05,950 --> 00:45:03,830
than you would normally encounter in

1021
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:05,960
that environment and generally that's

1022
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:08,170
gamma radiation that you encounter so

1023
00:45:13,570 --> 00:45:11,930
looking for gamma radiation is about the

1024
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:13,580
only thing you could really look for

1025
00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:15,050
after the fact it would give you any

1026
00:45:19,060 --> 00:45:16,790
kind of indication that something may

1027
00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:19,070
have occurred where someone claimed the

1028
00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:22,190
UFO took place all right but the level

1029
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:23,990
of radiation is something that could

1030
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:26,510
potentially cause harm to people

1031
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:29,230
absolutely we we put a warning out

1032
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:32,960
earlier this year after we experimented

1033
00:45:37,150 --> 00:45:35,330
with a new device that I designed called

1034
00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:37,160
the EMF quad relator which literally

1035
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:39,830
scans a room for emerging EMF and tells

1036
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:43,250
us where it's located we also had gamma

1037
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:45,710
radiation data loggers and when

1038
00:45:50,530 --> 00:45:49,130
paranormal activity occurs background

1039
00:45:53,050 --> 00:45:50,540
gamma radiation jumps

1040
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,060
significantly to the point of where you

1041
00:45:58,750 --> 00:45:55,760
start getting a lot of rapid-fire random

1042
00:46:00,820 --> 00:45:58,760
bursts of gamma radiation occurring in

1043
00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:00,830
the environment and prolonged exposure

1044
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:03,830
to it could cause people to have cancer

1045
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:06,050
and we have had a lot of deaths in the

1046
00:46:11,020 --> 00:46:08,480
field from cancer over the last few

1047
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:11,030
years and I can help in terms of ulo

1048
00:46:17,230 --> 00:46:14,480
researchers well we do researchers and

1049
00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:17,240
as well as people who investigate on and

1050
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:19,670
out you name a few

1051
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:22,910
UFO researchers we'd recognize we just

1052
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:24,890
lost Lloyd by I mean he died what

1053
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:28,640
yesterday yeah I mean it's it if I can't

1054
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:31,130
name him off the top of my head but you

1055
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:33,050
know I can tell you for a fact that

1056
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:34,970
there was I'm trying to think of her

1057
00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,370
name Dom she maybe was her name which

1058
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:39,680
was a paranormal investigator in the

1059
00:46:44,140 --> 00:46:41,450
field that died last year I believe it

1060
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:44,150
was from from cancer and we've had other

1061
00:46:47,890 --> 00:46:46,130
people report having cancer that he's

1062
00:46:50,050 --> 00:46:47,900
getting treatment for it that haven't

1063
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:50,060
died so the instances of cancer

1064
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:52,430
occurrences statistically are being

1065
00:46:56,860 --> 00:46:54,170
reported more and more and I don't know

1066
00:47:00,880 --> 00:46:56,870
what the exact statistics of them are or

1067
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:00,890
anything else a lot of names yeah I mean

1068
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:02,930
I can tell you that I've read about it

1069
00:47:08,590 --> 00:47:05,450
you know recently and made a note of it

1070
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:08,600
and it was enough Belen's is Talia Haley

1071
00:47:15,010 --> 00:47:11,810
mark Davenport yeah been quite a number

1072
00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:15,020
actually Laurie pied by the way was just

1073
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:18,230
66 yea what he died what kind of cancer

1074
00:47:24,910 --> 00:47:21,050
did he have I did I didn't see any

1075
00:47:27,460 --> 00:47:24,920
particular attribution in any of the

1076
00:47:29,860 --> 00:47:27,470
articles that I read so I'm not sure

1077
00:47:33,340 --> 00:47:29,870
Lloyd Pye was on the power cast a few

1078
00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:33,350
years ago this skull that he was going

1079
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,600
around with and there was some debate

1080
00:47:39,250 --> 00:47:37,520
over its reality but of course it's

1081
00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:39,260
unfortunate the guys no longer here to

1082
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:40,040
defend himself

1083
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:42,670
you know 66 is too young to go

1084
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:45,650
absolutely not the person that I was

1085
00:47:52,420 --> 00:47:48,710
talking about she was maybe in her early

1086
00:47:54,370 --> 00:47:52,430
forties so we're seeing a lot of that

1087
00:47:56,530 --> 00:47:54,380
and based on what we've been measuring

1088
00:47:59,110 --> 00:47:56,540
it's not a surprise because if people

1089
00:48:00,700 --> 00:47:59,120
are doing this stuff every weekend and

1090
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:00,710
they're going into these locations in

1091
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:02,330
the location is active they're being

1092
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:03,960
exposed to

1093
00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:06,310
probably the equivalent of two or three

1094
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:09,160
hundred x-rays a night while they're in

1095
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:11,440
that location if it's active that's

1096
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:12,880
fascinating I've never I've never heard

1097
00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:15,690
this the gamma radiation has now been

1098
00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:20,440
shown to be associated with really what

1099
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:23,080
I guess the emergence of paranormal

1100
00:48:29,010 --> 00:48:25,990
activity let me tell you I got this

1101
00:48:31,940 --> 00:48:29,020
information due to our great research

1102
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:31,950
department here at the para cast he was

1103
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:34,720
diagnosed some months back Lloyd Pye

1104
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:39,760
with aggressive b-cell lymphoma that was

1105
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:41,950
that's something that could be related

1106
00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:44,910
to radiation poisoning I'm just asking

1107
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:47,260
absolutely yeah absolutely

1108
00:48:52,650 --> 00:48:50,290
in any form of cancer yeah the body

1109
00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:52,660
reacts to radiation in a variety of

1110
00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:54,190
different ways I mean I know people that

1111
00:48:57,390 --> 00:48:55,720
have had bone cancer and if people have

1112
00:49:00,090 --> 00:48:57,400
developed stomach cancer from radiation

1113
00:49:01,530 --> 00:49:00,100
exposure it just really depends on the

1114
00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:01,540
genetic makeup of the person and how

1115
00:49:07,230 --> 00:49:05,500
their body reacts to the overexposure so

1116
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:07,240
it could cause a lot of different types

1117
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:11,470
of cancer but we started recommending

1118
00:49:14,730 --> 00:49:13,090
for people to take something like really

1119
00:49:18,180 --> 00:49:14,740
inexpensive like you know those x-ray

1120
00:49:19,830 --> 00:49:18,190
tech cards did x-ray techs wear and just

1121
00:49:23,010 --> 00:49:19,840
put them on your team when they change

1122
00:49:28,290 --> 00:49:23,020
color you know take away leaders take a

1123
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:28,300
break for a month you know we ought to

1124
00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:30,730
have health warnings for paranormal

1125
00:49:37,050 --> 00:49:34,060
researchers I'm being serious yeah well

1126
00:49:38,670 --> 00:49:37,060
we do we put it out one of the one of

1127
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:38,680
the parts of my theory is is you know

1128
00:49:43,050 --> 00:49:40,450
this is where Tom and I differ I believe

1129
00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:43,060
that based on I'm Stein Rosen bridge

1130
00:49:49,620 --> 00:49:46,600
formation or wormhole and one of the

1131
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:49,630
aspects of stabilizing a wormhole is to

1132
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:51,010
have exotic matter

1133
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:53,290
an exotic matter is simply matter that

1134
00:49:57,330 --> 00:49:55,390
has a negative mass to it well when

1135
00:49:59,690 --> 00:49:57,340
exotic matter comes into contact with

1136
00:50:01,590 --> 00:49:59,700
normal matter at annihilate and

1137
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:01,600
fortunately it annihilates at a

1138
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:03,640
subatomic level instead of that at an

1139
00:50:07,710 --> 00:50:05,440
atomic level or we'd have huge craters

1140
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:07,720
we're haunted houses used to be but

1141
00:50:11,970 --> 00:50:09,490
because it annihilates at a subatomic

1142
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:11,980
level all you get is these huge bursts

1143
00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:13,990
of gamma radiation and they're very

1144
00:50:17,460 --> 00:50:16,420
short-lived but they can reach a level

1145
00:50:21,390 --> 00:50:17,470
of up to we've met

1146
00:50:24,330 --> 00:50:21,400
350 Miller as per our verse Wow which is

1147
00:50:26,849 --> 00:50:24,340
which is hardcore gamma radiation now in

1148
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:26,859
a first format it's not you know

1149
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:30,130
long-term exposure but if you're in

1150
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:31,690
there for an hour and a half and there's

1151
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:33,430
activity and the radiation is there

1152
00:50:38,099 --> 00:50:35,770
you're getting bombarded by these bursts

1153
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:38,109
like these little bullets of gamma

1154
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:39,910
radiation or just like firing through

1155
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:44,440
you so the longer you're exposed to it

1156
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,050
of course the more you know radiation

1157
00:50:51,180 --> 00:50:49,119
you're absorbing in your body so anybody

1158
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:51,190
can assume that people who are UFO

1159
00:50:54,839 --> 00:50:53,920
witnesses or as alleged UFO witnesses

1160
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:54,849
who are very old

1161
00:50:59,339 --> 00:50:57,250
never really saw anything what do you

1162
00:51:01,080 --> 00:50:59,349
mean by that well he's talking about

1163
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:01,090
repeated exposure no that's what I'm

1164
00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:03,490
saying sure someone who is regularly

1165
00:51:07,950 --> 00:51:06,190
seeing UFOs you think they'd have some

1166
00:51:09,390 --> 00:51:07,960
physical yeah billy meier should have

1167
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:09,400
been dead years ago if that's the case

1168
00:51:16,620 --> 00:51:13,990
well maybe his doppelganger is here hey

1169
00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:16,630
we've got David Rountree joining us and

1170
00:51:23,250 --> 00:51:19,840
we're discussing the physical measurable

1171
00:51:25,730 --> 00:51:23,260
effects a so normal phenomena and some

1172
00:51:30,210 --> 00:51:25,740
of it may not be good for your health

1173
00:51:38,490 --> 00:51:30,220
with gene and Chris in the pure gas

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1175
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1191
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:20,830
hi this is Ted Anderson have you ever

1192
00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:22,330
wondered why banks stockbrokers

1193
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:23,860
investment advisors won't talk about

1194
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gold IRAs they've been available since

1195
00:52:30,030 --> 00:52:28,240
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1196
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1197
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retirement gold has outperformed paper

1198
00:52:35,730 --> 00:52:34,240
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1205
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1206
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1207
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1220
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1221
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1222
00:54:15,010 --> 00:54:12,890
here's Jane Steinberg with Jean and

1223
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:15,020
Chris and the para casts we're learning

1224
00:54:19,810 --> 00:54:17,810
an aspect of paranormal research that

1225
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:19,820
isn't too friendly that possibly

1226
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:23,510
repeated exposure can be harmful we

1227
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:25,490
should all wear radiation suits then

1228
00:54:30,730 --> 00:54:28,400
well at least LED underwear lead-lined

1229
00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:30,740
underwear you know David I came up with

1230
00:54:37,090 --> 00:54:35,390
an idea to protect cellphone users when

1231
00:54:40,980 --> 00:54:37,100
they're carrying around their cellphones

1232
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:40,990
of course we lost Phillip Coppens to

1233
00:54:47,590 --> 00:54:45,290
galloping angina sarcoma and some of his

1234
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:47,600
friends wonder if carrying two

1235
00:54:52,330 --> 00:54:50,480
cellphones one in one breast pocket and

1236
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:52,340
one in the other for several years may

1237
00:54:58,990 --> 00:54:55,760
have contributed to his very unfortunate

1238
00:55:02,140 --> 00:54:59,000
and untimely demise of an extremely rare

1239
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:02,150
form of cancer and he was known to have

1240
00:55:05,710 --> 00:55:04,310
two cellphones one in each breast pocket

1241
00:55:08,740 --> 00:55:05,720
walking around one for his girlfriend

1242
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,750
one for the rest of his life and he was

1243
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:10,400
diagnosed and we lost him and I think

1244
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:13,990
six weeks so I've come up with an idea a

1245
00:55:22,750 --> 00:55:18,110
very thin lead lining around a cellphone

1246
00:55:24,610 --> 00:55:22,760
carrying case so that you can isolate at

1247
00:55:29,290 --> 00:55:24,620
least on the back side against the body

1248
00:55:32,590 --> 00:55:29,300
you can isolate the and somehow shield

1249
00:55:35,050 --> 00:55:32,600
the body from the electromagnetic

1250
00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:35,060
radiation that these things put out you

1251
00:55:43,870 --> 00:55:40,280
know the specs for a mobile handset they

1252
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:43,880
actually do have radiation measurements

1253
00:55:48,490 --> 00:55:46,400
that are required by the FCC in the

1254
00:55:51,310 --> 00:55:48,500
United States but I can begin to say how

1255
00:55:54,460 --> 00:55:51,320
much is too much I'll just say that I do

1256
00:55:57,010 --> 00:55:54,470
occasionally keep my iPhone in my pocket

1257
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:57,020
when I go in my car I stick it on one of

1258
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:58,640
the seats where I stick it in the center

1259
00:56:04,450 --> 00:56:01,280
console I use hands-free I very rarely

1260
00:56:07,060 --> 00:56:04,460
put that thing next to my I never stick

1261
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:07,070
it up to my head mmm where do you come

1262
00:56:11,170 --> 00:56:09,290
down on cell phones David being

1263
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:11,180
someone who's got a background in

1264
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:12,890
science deals with these types of

1265
00:56:17,710 --> 00:56:15,680
energetic scenarios do you put a cell

1266
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:17,720
phone up next to your head oh yeah I've

1267
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:19,010
done it before it's different kind of

1268
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:20,930
radiation guys it's a much lower

1269
00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:22,880
frequency radiation than gamma radiation

1270
00:56:26,050 --> 00:56:24,200
well yeah you don't know the apples in

1271
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:26,060
the head you don't need to lad to block

1272
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:27,410
it all you need to move now

1273
00:56:31,660 --> 00:56:30,050
and get a thin piece of new metal which

1274
00:56:34,030 --> 00:56:31,670
looks a little bit like a thin sheet of

1275
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:34,040
ten and if you're really concerned about

1276
00:56:38,530 --> 00:56:36,890
it you can put that around it but it's a

1277
00:56:40,750 --> 00:56:38,540
different kind of radiation now I'm not

1278
00:56:42,550 --> 00:56:40,760
saying that cell phone radiation or RF

1279
00:56:44,050 --> 00:56:42,560
radiation isn't harmful to you because

1280
00:56:46,510 --> 00:56:44,060
if you're exposed to anything for long

1281
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:46,520
enough period I think it's not good for

1282
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,890
you the gamma radiations will different

1283
00:56:52,750 --> 00:56:50,720
gamma radiation take like six feet of

1284
00:56:55,660 --> 00:56:52,760
concrete to stop whatever you in

1285
00:56:57,940 --> 00:56:55,670
Chisholm led to stop oh it's a little

1286
00:57:00,430 --> 00:56:57,950
different kind of thing it's apples and

1287
00:57:02,530 --> 00:57:00,440
oranges the aluminum has don't work you

1288
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,540
know but yeah cellphones can definitely

1289
00:57:06,670 --> 00:57:04,640
be dangerous if you expose yourself to

1290
00:57:09,850 --> 00:57:06,680
them for a long period of time I usually

1291
00:57:12,070 --> 00:57:09,860
use a headset like a wireless headset or

1292
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:12,080
that sort of thing and I I just don't

1293
00:57:15,790 --> 00:57:13,730
sit on the phone for three or four hours

1294
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:15,800
I know when I do sit on the phone it's

1295
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:19,010
always hands-free period very big into

1296
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:21,710
that I will not drive in a car with a

1297
00:57:27,070 --> 00:57:24,410
cell phone and use it unless there's a

1298
00:57:30,190 --> 00:57:27,080
hands-free capability and nowadays even

1299
00:57:33,490 --> 00:57:30,200
the cheapest cars an entry-level compact

1300
00:57:35,470 --> 00:57:33,500
or subcompact has hands-free either

1301
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:35,480
standard equipment or as an option you

1302
00:57:39,820 --> 00:57:37,760
buy hands-free system for less than a

1303
00:57:41,530 --> 00:57:39,830
hundred dollars so we recommend that and

1304
00:57:43,090 --> 00:57:41,540
we also recommend you don't do any

1305
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,100
paranormal research because it might be

1306
00:57:47,470 --> 00:57:45,440
dangerous to your health I'm kidding

1307
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:47,480
well you certainly should take

1308
00:57:50,860 --> 00:57:49,310
precautions as with anything else it's

1309
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:50,870
just like if you were investigating a

1310
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:53,510
criminal situation and you were going in

1311
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:54,770
and there was someone armed and

1312
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:55,970
dangerous you wouldn't go in without a

1313
00:57:58,090 --> 00:57:56,510
gun

1314
00:57:59,950 --> 00:57:58,100
well if the same sort of thing is with

1315
00:58:01,660 --> 00:57:59,960
anything you know you should understand

1316
00:58:04,540 --> 00:58:01,670
the dangers of the situation and be

1317
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:04,550
prepared for them unfortunately a lot of

1318
00:58:09,010 --> 00:58:06,410
people aren't really doing paranormal

1319
00:58:11,110 --> 00:58:09,020
research they are looking for ghosts

1320
00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:11,120
there's a big difference in that when

1321
00:58:16,530 --> 00:58:13,220
you start looking at research research

1322
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:16,540
is looking at every possible explanation

1323
00:58:23,020 --> 00:58:20,450
that can occur to create the phenomena

1324
00:58:23,290 --> 00:58:23,030
that's reported co-signing is going in

1325
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:23,300
some

1326
00:58:26,530 --> 00:58:25,130
looking for a ghost well you're gonna

1327
00:58:27,580 --> 00:58:26,540
find a ghost if you're looking for one

1328
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:27,590
because that's what you're looking for

1329
00:58:31,090 --> 00:58:29,510
and anything you see is going to

1330
00:58:32,980 --> 00:58:31,100
convince you that you've seen a ghost

1331
00:58:34,660 --> 00:58:32,990
research is something else we're looking

1332
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:34,670
for what's really going on what's the

1333
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:35,210
truth

1334
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:37,280
what's the 4:01 one you know what's

1335
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:39,170
happening here well the true believer

1336
00:58:43,780 --> 00:58:41,570
will say the ghosts are spirits of the

1337
00:58:45,580 --> 00:58:43,790
Dead okay it's my uncle George or it's

1338
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:45,590
my brother Wally my late brother Wally

1339
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,530
came back and he's hanging out so what's

1340
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:50,960
the truth what do you think is it a

1341
00:58:56,740 --> 00:58:53,930
manifestation of someone who has died or

1342
00:58:59,740 --> 00:58:56,750
what I prefer to call it a disembodied

1343
00:59:02,160 --> 00:58:59,750
consciousness we can't really answer

1344
00:59:04,270 --> 00:59:02,170
that question I don't know if we ever

1345
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:04,280
will be able to answer that question

1346
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:07,310
however I can say that it does seem to

1347
00:59:12,580 --> 00:59:09,050
be a consciousness it does seem to be

1348
00:59:14,770 --> 00:59:12,590
intelligent and it does seem to have you

1349
00:59:16,930 --> 00:59:14,780
know capabilities and it does seem to

1350
00:59:18,790 --> 00:59:16,940
know things that only maybe that dead

1351
00:59:21,130 --> 00:59:18,800
person could have known but we still

1352
00:59:23,050 --> 00:59:21,140
can't definitively say that yeah it's a

1353
00:59:24,430 --> 00:59:23,060
dead person what I believe and what I

1354
00:59:26,590 --> 00:59:24,440
can prove are two different things let

1355
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:26,600
me just clarify that number one but what

1356
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:28,850
it boils down to is we're dealing with

1357
00:59:31,780 --> 00:59:31,040
something that has intelligence we're

1358
00:59:34,660 --> 00:59:31,790
dealing with something that's

1359
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:34,670
noncorporeal so it's energy based we

1360
00:59:39,070 --> 00:59:36,650
have seen signatures in the environment

1361
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:39,080
that look almost like a bio field in

1362
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:42,110
nature so to rush to that thing and say

1363
00:59:46,210 --> 00:59:43,910
yeah it's you know dead people I can't

1364
00:59:47,830 --> 00:59:46,220
say that I mean do I believe it could be

1365
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:47,840
dead people yeah of course I do

1366
00:59:51,340 --> 00:59:49,760
there's a certain high level of

1367
00:59:53,650 --> 00:59:51,350
anecdotal evidence that suggests that

1368
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:53,660
but can I come out and say that we can

1369
00:59:57,460 --> 00:59:55,040
prove that that's what it is that we

1370
00:59:59,650 --> 00:59:57,470
can't having said that there's

1371
01:00:02,260 --> 00:59:59,660
definitely something going on it's

1372
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:02,270
intelligent it's interacting and it's

1373
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:04,610
affecting people it's affecting people

1374
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:06,290
both in their consciousness and it's

1375
01:00:10,150 --> 01:00:08,330
affecting people physically well the one

1376
01:00:14,590 --> 01:00:10,160
question I always ask in situations like

1377
01:00:15,310 --> 01:00:14,600
this are we seeing this phenomenon as it

1378
01:00:18,460 --> 01:00:15,320
really is

1379
01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:18,470
or are we coloring it because of our own

1380
01:00:23,950 --> 01:00:20,870
preconditioning I think the answer is

1381
01:00:26,860 --> 01:00:23,960
yes I think there's a combination of

1382
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:26,870
thing so therefore for example if it's

1383
01:00:30,310 --> 01:00:28,730
my uncle George or I think it's my uncle

1384
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:30,320
George it's because I walk in there

1385
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:33,410
expecting to see my uncle George or

1386
01:00:36,790 --> 01:00:36,110
someone I know well you know who can say

1387
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:36,800
I

1388
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:40,790
have a central nervous system in a brain

1389
01:00:44,980 --> 01:00:42,770
and there's all this electricity running

1390
01:00:46,690 --> 01:00:44,990
through it all this energy of different

1391
01:00:48,430 --> 01:00:46,700
frequencies and different pulses that

1392
01:00:49,570 --> 01:00:48,440
are running through our body well we

1393
01:00:51,220 --> 01:00:49,580
know from the first law of

1394
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:51,230
thermodynamics that energy can be

1395
01:00:56,110 --> 01:00:52,970
neither created nor destroyed

1396
01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:56,120
can only be converted so that energy has

1397
01:01:00,940 --> 01:00:58,400
to have a conversion process which we're

1398
01:01:02,380 --> 01:01:00,950
not aware of any conversion process so

1399
01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:02,390
that energy has to propagate out

1400
01:01:06,610 --> 01:01:04,870
somewhere and go someplace now certainly

1401
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:06,620
scientists will tell you well it just

1402
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:08,330
kind of goes out in all directions

1403
01:01:12,940 --> 01:01:10,970
but does it you know there seems to be a

1404
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:12,950
great deal of anecdotal evidence to

1405
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:15,530
suggest other one particularly if you

1406
01:01:20,380 --> 01:01:17,510
start looking at for example I started

1407
01:01:22,330 --> 01:01:20,390
studying near-death experiences from dr.

1408
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:22,340
Raymond Moody's Research but I only

1409
01:01:26,530 --> 01:01:24,650
concentrated on people that were dead

1410
01:01:28,330 --> 01:01:26,540
longer than 12 minutes why because

1411
01:01:30,450 --> 01:01:28,340
there's zero brain activity it's

1412
01:01:33,310 --> 01:01:30,460
flatline so it can't be explained by

1413
01:01:35,290 --> 01:01:33,320
oxygen deprivation because the brain is

1414
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:35,300
dead at that point there's no activity

1415
01:01:38,140 --> 01:01:37,040
at all no electrical activity in the

1416
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:38,150
brain whatsoever and yet these people

1417
01:01:41,830 --> 01:01:40,310
come back no brain damage and they have

1418
01:01:43,930 --> 01:01:41,840
all these fantastic stories to tell but

1419
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:43,940
there's a common denominator and that's

1420
01:01:47,650 --> 01:01:45,170
that they went down this long dark

1421
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:47,660
tunnel came out in this bright light and

1422
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:49,490
all their dead relatives were that well

1423
01:01:53,290 --> 01:01:51,710
if you start looking at that dark tunnel

1424
01:01:55,570 --> 01:01:53,300
I started thinking gee that's exactly

1425
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:55,580
what a wormhole would look like if your

1426
01:01:59,740 --> 01:01:57,890
consciousness or your energy was to go

1427
01:02:01,120 --> 01:01:59,750
through that you would experience it

1428
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:01,130
like you were going through this tube

1429
01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:03,650
like this this tunnel and that's really

1430
01:02:07,180 --> 01:02:04,870
what got me to thinking about

1431
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:07,190
possibility of it being a wormhole that

1432
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:09,110
was creating these effects and that's

1433
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,090
when we started specifically looking for

1434
01:02:15,850 --> 01:02:13,760
the effects that a wormhole would have

1435
01:02:17,290 --> 01:02:15,860
on the environment if such a thing open

1436
01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:17,300
and that's when we started hitting

1437
01:02:21,730 --> 01:02:19,430
paydirt now let me ask you something

1438
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:21,740
theoretically here or something in the

1439
01:02:26,350 --> 01:02:23,690
sci-fi realm now when we think of

1440
01:02:28,810 --> 01:02:26,360
wormholes in the sci-fi universe it's a

1441
01:02:30,730 --> 01:02:28,820
way to get from one place to another

1442
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:30,740
you also think in terms of so-called

1443
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:33,130
parallel universes where there are

1444
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:36,650
multiple universes maybe we have another

1445
01:02:41,590 --> 01:02:39,410
version of Jean Steinberg I can't

1446
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:41,600
imagine that that'd be terrible okay so

1447
01:02:47,170 --> 01:02:44,690
Brian even worse or David Roundtree the

1448
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:47,180
universe if something happens to them

1449
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:49,490
we may be seeing that and we were seeing

1450
01:02:52,310 --> 01:02:50,250
an after

1451
01:02:54,380 --> 01:02:52,320
of something that's going on in another

1452
01:02:56,450 --> 01:02:54,390
reality universe whatever that's

1453
01:03:00,170 --> 01:02:56,460
Everett's theory of the multiverse there

1454
01:03:01,970 --> 01:03:00,180
or the multiple worlds theory QED ever

1455
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:01,980
at the third I guess it is I don't buy

1456
01:03:05,420 --> 01:03:04,110
into that theory because it's kind of

1457
01:03:06,590 --> 01:03:05,430
impossible where's all this energy

1458
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:06,600
coming from to create all these

1459
01:03:10,370 --> 01:03:07,920
universes just because we make a

1460
01:03:13,690 --> 01:03:10,380
decision I believe there is a multiverse

1461
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:13,700
but I believe that this multiverse is a

1462
01:03:18,620 --> 01:03:16,890
finite system in which you know one

1463
01:03:20,810 --> 01:03:18,630
universe is feeding another while

1464
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:20,820
another is collapsing in other words the

1465
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:23,910
energy is being conserved throughout the

1466
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:26,880
multiverse but it may be you know it may

1467
01:03:32,450 --> 01:03:29,490
be inflating one universe such as our

1468
01:03:34,340 --> 01:03:32,460
universe is continuing to inflate and it

1469
01:03:36,050 --> 01:03:34,350
may be draining energy from another

1470
01:03:38,060 --> 01:03:36,060
universe it may be collapsing or

1471
01:03:39,620 --> 01:03:38,070
shrinking we have to go into more of

1472
01:03:42,410 --> 01:03:39,630
this our next segment with David

1473
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:42,420
Rountree with Jean and Chris you're in

1474
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:50,370
loop Erica's so here's what happened I

1475
01:03:55,550 --> 01:03:52,650
was placing an order online the site

1476
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:55,560
went down it just stopped responding it

1477
01:03:59,330 --> 01:03:57,930
took hours before it returned but I'd

1478
01:04:01,670 --> 01:03:59,340
already placed the order with another

1479
01:04:03,770 --> 01:04:01,680
company if your site goes down you could

1480
01:04:05,690 --> 01:04:03,780
lose business and if you have a business

1481
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:05,700
or personal site you'll want to know

1482
01:04:12,230 --> 01:04:08,370
it's easy to run and it will stay online

1483
01:04:15,020 --> 01:04:12,240
at I web your site is hosted on one of

1484
01:04:18,370 --> 01:04:15,030
the most reliable networks in the world

1485
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:18,380
check it out I web com that's a web.com

1486
01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:20,970
first game attack of the rockets and it

1487
01:04:24,290 --> 01:04:22,710
was a critically acclaimed success and

1488
01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:24,300
now there is the coming of the

1489
01:04:28,340 --> 01:04:25,830
protectors a former military

1490
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:28,350
intelligence man is contacted by a space

1491
01:04:33,170 --> 01:04:30,570
woman in a dream a dream that turns out

1492
01:04:34,610 --> 01:04:33,180
to be a nightmare because evil forces on

1493
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:34,620
our distant planet are planning to

1494
01:04:38,090 --> 01:04:35,760
conquer the earth

1495
01:04:40,550 --> 01:04:38,100
this is gripping science fiction of the

1496
01:04:42,620 --> 01:04:40,560
classic kind attack of the rock codes

1497
01:04:44,570 --> 01:04:42,630
and the coming of the protectors find

1498
01:04:48,430 --> 01:04:44,580
out more at Rocco's calm

1499
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:48,440
that's Rocko it's our Ock oids calm

1500
01:04:52,370 --> 01:04:49,920
quantitative easing

1501
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:52,380
unemployment at depression levels Europe

1502
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:54,480
financial system falling apart China

1503
01:04:59,210 --> 01:04:56,610
getting out of US Treasuries at the end

1504
01:05:01,400 --> 01:04:59,220
of 2008 the time of tarp the national

1505
01:05:03,550 --> 01:05:01,410
debt was at eleven trillion gold trading

1506
01:05:06,070 --> 01:05:03,560
around $850 per ounce

1507
01:05:08,410 --> 01:05:06,080
close to 2012 the national debt exceeded

1508
01:05:10,270 --> 01:05:08,420
sixteen point four trillion Gul doubled

1509
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:10,280
a $1600 promise

1510
01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:11,810
the 20 trillion threshold for the

1511
01:05:15,850 --> 01:05:14,150
national debt is inevitable politicians

1512
01:05:18,430 --> 01:05:15,860
in Washington have a ferocious appetite

1513
01:05:21,010 --> 01:05:18,440
for spending and stimulus what's worse a

1514
01:05:22,930 --> 01:05:21,020
printing press to finance 100 years ago

1515
01:05:24,970 --> 01:05:22,940
we had a gold standard to limit this

1516
01:05:26,860 --> 01:05:24,980
madness but now you have to adopt your

1517
01:05:29,470 --> 01:05:26,870
own gold standard don't be fooled with

1518
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:29,480
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1519
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1520
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1521
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1522
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1524
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1525
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1526
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1527
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1528
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1529
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1530
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1531
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1532
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1533
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:52,070
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1534
01:06:56,410 --> 01:06:54,530
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1535
01:06:59,290 --> 01:06:56,420
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1536
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1540
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1544
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1545
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1546
01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:19,050
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1547
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1549
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1550
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1552
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1553
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1554
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1555
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1556
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1557
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1558
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we'd like to hear from you

1559
01:07:57,890 --> 01:07:54,630
if you have a comment or question about

1560
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:57,900
the para cast sent it to news at the

1561
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:01,200
para cast com that's news at the para

1562
01:08:06,530 --> 01:08:04,050
cast calm and don't forget to visit our

1563
01:08:10,839 --> 01:08:06,540
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1564
01:08:13,940 --> 01:08:10,849
forum dot the para cast com

1565
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:13,950
so therefore David Rountree you're

1566
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:16,650
suggesting that these various universes

1567
01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:19,290
are feeding upon one another they're

1568
01:08:24,110 --> 01:08:21,359
interactive something happens to one

1569
01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:24,120
that's impacted by the other that's

1570
01:08:28,579 --> 01:08:26,670
exactly right I believe that there's a

1571
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:28,589
multiverse because of bruising on the

1572
01:08:31,729 --> 01:08:30,150
Cosmic Microwave Background

1573
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,739
that had to happen from something

1574
01:08:35,090 --> 01:08:33,839
outside of our universe so I believe

1575
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:35,100
there is something outside our universe

1576
01:08:41,390 --> 01:08:38,239
I believe that we probably have multiple

1577
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:41,400
universes that may even some may even

1578
01:08:45,470 --> 01:08:43,650
occupy the same space as our own but

1579
01:08:49,390 --> 01:08:45,480
they resonate at a different frequency

1580
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:49,400
than ours does kind of like a TV

1581
01:08:53,900 --> 01:08:52,020
transmission wave where you've got all

1582
01:08:55,459 --> 01:08:53,910
kinds of information on it and yet it's

1583
01:08:56,959 --> 01:08:55,469
not interfering with each other and

1584
01:08:58,430 --> 01:08:56,969
really doesn't know that the other

1585
01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:58,440
signals are there like you got audio

1586
01:09:02,269 --> 01:09:00,000
information you've got high-def

1587
01:09:05,329 --> 01:09:02,279
information you've got video information

1588
01:09:08,030 --> 01:09:05,339
all in a carrier wave well we could have

1589
01:09:12,890 --> 01:09:08,040
multiple parallel universes within that

1590
01:09:14,030 --> 01:09:12,900
same spatial area but they wouldn't

1591
01:09:16,519 --> 01:09:14,040
interfere with one another unless

1592
01:09:18,349 --> 01:09:16,529
certain conditions occurred think of the

1593
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:18,359
old clothesline sheet in your mom's

1594
01:09:22,010 --> 01:09:19,890
backyard when you were growing up where

1595
01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:22,020
you had five clotheslines and she would

1596
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:23,190
hang sheets on

1597
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:24,810
normally their sheets just hung there

1598
01:09:27,919 --> 01:09:26,370
they didn't touch they didn't know each

1599
01:09:30,169 --> 01:09:27,929
other was there but if the breeze blew a

1600
01:09:32,050 --> 01:09:30,179
little bit suddenly they'd flap and kind

1601
01:09:34,370 --> 01:09:32,060
of touch each other here and there and

1602
01:09:36,559 --> 01:09:34,380
suddenly went from one would go to the

1603
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:36,569
other and vice versa and that's kind of

1604
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:38,489
the thing I'm talking about here these

1605
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:40,170
universes from time to time may

1606
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:42,330
interfere with one another and where

1607
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:44,730
that interference occurs you could have

1608
01:09:49,550 --> 01:09:47,040
a transference of information and the

1609
01:09:51,950 --> 01:09:49,560
mechanics of that of course are up for

1610
01:09:53,930 --> 01:09:51,960
debate but what we're looking at seems

1611
01:09:55,870 --> 01:09:53,940
to indicate then we have some type of

1612
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:55,880
einstein-rosen bridge active

1613
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:58,530
facilitating it well we've got some

1614
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:00,480
pretty interesting questions from a very

1615
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:02,850
up-to-speed group of posters that form

1616
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:06,239
dr. Perik as calm and this is a good

1617
01:10:09,050 --> 01:10:08,010
time to throw some of these questions

1618
01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:09,060
your direction

1619
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has several questions one of them is a

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good one to start with here and he asked

1623
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what are the most common features that

1624
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different haunted sites have have in

1625
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common like traumatic events presence of

1626
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moving water limestone deposits and what

1627
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theories can be established based on

1628
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those features is it somehow possible

1629
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for some form of historical playback to

1630
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be taken place simply because of the

1631
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intensity of previous experiences taking

1632
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place in these unique geological spaces

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so I think he's asking is there some

1634
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sort of geophysical properties

1635
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consistencies among among them yeah it

1636
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sounds like he's subscribing to the

1637
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stones have memory theory which has not

1638
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a single shred of evidence to support it

1639
01:11:06,350 --> 01:11:04,669
hauntings in other words yeah what I

1640
01:11:08,959 --> 01:11:06,360
think a residual haunting is is

1641
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literally the einstein-rosen bridges

1642
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instead of connecting to places in space

1643
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to connecting to places in time and

1644
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you're literally seeing a historical

1645
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event on the holographic boundary of

1646
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that wormhole and the reason there's no

1647
01:11:22,459 --> 01:11:19,949
interactions because they don't see us

1648
01:11:24,290 --> 01:11:22,469
we're seeing them through this this tube

1649
01:11:27,770 --> 01:11:24,300
like a telescope that's looking back in

1650
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time I looked at all those notions and

1651
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and really there's there's zero

1652
01:11:33,950 --> 01:11:31,889
scientific evidence to back up any of it

1653
01:11:36,290 --> 01:11:33,960
there is however theoretical evidence to

1654
01:11:36,740 --> 01:11:36,300
back up that an einstein-rosen bridge

1655
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could

1656
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we connect to places in time the whole

1657
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concept of time travel revolves around

1658
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:44,460
utilizing wormholes to do that it's a

1659
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:46,530
shortcut in time but what I believe is

1660
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:48,090
happening in a residual haunting is

1661
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you're literally looking at a historical

1662
01:11:55,190 --> 01:11:52,740
event take place based on your physical

1663
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:55,200
location in reference to the opening of

1664
01:11:59,690 --> 01:11:57,570
that wormhole that funnel that opens up

1665
01:12:01,070 --> 01:11:59,700
the throat of it if you're in the right

1666
01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:01,080
position it's kind of like being in

1667
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:03,360
front of a big flat-screen TV if you're

1668
01:12:06,260 --> 01:12:04,770
off to the side you really don't see it

1669
01:12:08,090 --> 01:12:06,270
very well but if you're straight in

1670
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:08,100
front of it you see it extraordinarily

1671
01:12:12,830 --> 01:12:10,410
well and I think it has to do with your

1672
01:12:15,140 --> 01:12:12,840
location versus the actual throat

1673
01:12:17,300 --> 01:12:15,150
opening and it's you know orientation to

1674
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,310
the observer but as far as you know

1675
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going back to trauma and things like

1676
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:20,600
this to happen

1677
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:24,000
statistically hospitals tend to have a

1678
01:12:28,460 --> 01:12:26,130
lot of activity because there's a lot of

1679
01:12:30,110 --> 01:12:28,470
births and deaths and I think the same

1680
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:30,120
thing that brings the consciousness into

1681
01:12:33,530 --> 01:12:31,650
the body is what takes a consciousness

1682
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,540
out of the body I think wormholes are

1683
01:12:37,310 --> 01:12:35,280
probably responsible for delivering our

1684
01:12:38,570 --> 01:12:37,320
consciousness to the fetus and I think

1685
01:12:42,170 --> 01:12:38,580
more moles are responsible for taking

1686
01:12:43,340 --> 01:12:42,180
its way if that's the case in places

1687
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where you have a lot of births and

1688
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deaths are going to be active place

1689
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where you had a lot of deaths are going

1690
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to be active because a lot of wormholes

1691
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formation occurred there so places like

1692
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asylums where you had large groups of

1693
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people that were sick and that died

1694
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places like hospitals infirmaries

1695
01:13:03,530 --> 01:13:01,020
battlefields places where there was a

1696
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:03,540
lot of death tend to be very active but

1697
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it's not limited to that people that

1698
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have just normal homes that have had

1699
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maybe a person died there have activity

1700
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so it's not cut and dry to say that you

1701
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have to have these prerequisites for

1702
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something to happen because we don't

1703
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even know what happened on the land

1704
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before the house was built there's so

1705
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many different aspects that could be

1706
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contributing factors to it and you know

1707
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there's really no way to check all those

1708
01:13:35,090 --> 01:13:31,710
historically yeah I agree and you're

1709
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using the term a wormhole I understand

1710
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as as kind of a familiar term I think

1711
01:13:43,850 --> 01:13:42,240
however if you really look at what if

1712
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the whole concept of wormholes I mean

1713
01:13:50,660 --> 01:13:47,280
the art is still theoretical to a

1714
01:13:54,860 --> 01:13:50,670
greater or lesser degree

1715
01:13:57,230 --> 01:13:54,870
at least to my knowledge and to use this

1716
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particular term I think is going to

1717
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create some controversy among you know

1718
01:14:04,010 --> 01:14:01,470
people that are fairly open minded but

1719
01:14:06,290 --> 01:14:04,020
healthily skeptical because if we can

1720
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:06,300
produce evidence that it exists that'll

1721
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:08,130
be that that was that's what I was

1722
01:14:12,380 --> 01:14:09,570
getting to it sounds like you're well on

1723
01:14:15,470 --> 01:14:12,390
your way to establish this term has a

1724
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workable testable hypothesis which of

1725
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:18,150
course is the primary tenant of the

1726
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scientific method why don't you go into

1727
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:24,810
a little bit more detail about your

1728
01:14:29,060 --> 01:14:26,970
particular wormhole theory and then we

1729
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can get to some more questions well

1730
01:14:34,030 --> 01:14:31,530
essentially what we think is happening

1731
01:14:36,860 --> 01:14:34,040
is these wormholes are forming between

1732
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our universe and and adjacent universe

1733
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:39,300
and we're the only reason we're coming

1734
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:41,250
to this conclusion is based off the data

1735
01:14:44,510 --> 01:14:43,170
based off of what is happening in the

1736
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environment and then trying to come up

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with a scientific explanation to explain

1738
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:51,270
why and in physics were very limited to

1739
01:14:58,460 --> 01:14:53,130
explain all of these things that are

1740
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:58,470
occurring for example tom has come up

1741
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with an idea that these bubbles are

1742
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occurring that are allowing this inner

1743
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dimensionality bleed-through kind of

1744
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thing to happen which interestingly

1745
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would cause a pretty similar effect to

1746
01:15:13,310 --> 01:15:10,860
what a wormhole would cause if it was

1747
01:15:15,020 --> 01:15:13,320
forming because what's happening is is

1748
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we've got a localized bending of

1749
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time-space that's what we're seeing

1750
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:19,800
that's what's happening there's only so

1751
01:15:24,710 --> 01:15:21,810
many things that can cause a localized

1752
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:24,720
bending of time-space we're also looking

1753
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at phenomena that is local with a

1754
01:15:33,730 --> 01:15:31,530
non-local source again that eliminates a

1755
01:15:36,500 --> 01:15:33,740
lot of things in physics to be the cause

1756
01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:36,510
there's only a couple of things that

1757
01:15:41,540 --> 01:15:39,030
could cause this sort of thing and still

1758
01:15:44,660 --> 01:15:41,550
be in the realm of either known or

1759
01:15:48,290 --> 01:15:44,670
theoretical science and that's what

1760
01:15:49,820 --> 01:15:48,300
we're looking at and these are these are

1761
01:15:51,770 --> 01:15:49,830
the two mechanisms

1762
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I mean Tom's mechanism and my mechanism

1763
01:15:57,170 --> 01:15:54,780
that we're both defending would

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literally have the same symptoms in the

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environment so we are course that

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loggerheads as to who's right but up

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into the point of what the physical car

1768
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as we're in total agreement as to what

1769
01:16:10,430 --> 01:16:08,010
we're encountering I mean his theory

1770
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makes the same predictions mine do but

1771
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essentially this conduit forms and it

1772
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forms as long as it's held stable by the

1773
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supporting exotic matter for a wormhole

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and once the wormhole depletes to a

1775
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point where it's no longer stable the

1776
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wormhole collapses the show's gonna

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this is Leslie Kane and I'm with the

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01:21:00,340 --> 01:20:56,700
Coalition for freedom of information and

1887
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:00,350
you are listening to the podcast I

1888
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normally do not get laughter when I do a

1889
01:21:07,900 --> 01:21:05,430
segue this is such a rare occasion I

1890
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will savor the moment

1891
01:21:12,020 --> 01:21:10,200
okay David Rountree let me ask you

1892
01:21:14,660 --> 01:21:12,030
something before Chris gets back to the

1893
01:21:17,570 --> 01:21:14,670
questions from our listeners okay this

1894
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:17,580
wormhole is in science fiction we think

1895
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:19,410
of it as a way to get from one place to

1896
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:22,560
another jump to another portion of the

1897
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galaxy for example is this something

1898
01:21:30,290 --> 01:21:27,300
that scientifically we can recreate and

1899
01:21:32,290 --> 01:21:30,300
use that's what we're looking at I mean

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the type of wormhole that we are

1901
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encountering is not something that would

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allow physical matter to pass through so

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you're not in danger of being sucked

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away by it or or actually transported to

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01:21:47,990 --> 01:21:45,060
another area all that's happening here

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is information is emerging from it in

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the form of energy in the form of

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01:21:54,290 --> 01:21:52,500
different types of energy but there are

1909
01:21:57,410 --> 01:21:54,300
theoretical wormholes that would allow

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01:22:00,050 --> 01:21:57,420
physical you know transportation through

1911
01:22:03,710 --> 01:22:00,060
and like a Lorentzian wormhole for

1912
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:03,720
example but you'll have to tell us what

1913
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:06,090
that means well it just means it's a

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type of wormhole that supports you no

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matter and energy to be able to pass

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through it to be able to transmit

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01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:13,410
through it it would take an incredible

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01:22:16,790 --> 01:22:14,730
amount of energy to create something

1919
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:16,800
like that though wouldn't it not if the

1920
01:22:20,420 --> 01:22:17,310
universe

1921
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came from as pure energy good point I

1922
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mean our universe is based off energy

1923
01:22:27,740 --> 01:22:25,080
and matter what if the adjacent universe

1924
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:27,750
is based off pure energy I mean there'd

1925
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be an abundance of energy absolutely I

1926
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:32,880
mean and and if there was this giant

1927
01:22:37,780 --> 01:22:35,610
universe based on pure energy well what

1928
01:22:40,970 --> 01:22:37,790
would that do for us for needing energy

1929
01:22:45,140 --> 01:22:40,980
but why does it pick Sun that's the old

1930
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:45,150
house and show up and scare people just

1931
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:47,010
well I think these things open up around

1932
01:22:50,500 --> 01:22:48,570
us all the time we just don't notice

1933
01:22:53,450 --> 01:22:50,510
them because they're at a plank level

1934
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:53,460
even even Hawking says that he says that

1935
01:22:56,330 --> 01:22:54,960
you know wormholes open up around us all

1936
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:56,340
the time we just don't notice them

1937
01:23:00,830 --> 01:22:57,530
because they're at a you know a

1938
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:00,840
subatomic level the difference is is

1939
01:23:05,450 --> 01:23:02,250
what we're noticing is these aren't

1940
01:23:07,670 --> 01:23:05,460
subatomic they're fairly large you know

1941
01:23:10,010 --> 01:23:07,680
a couple meters in diameter an area of

1942
01:23:13,460 --> 01:23:10,020
effect so we're definitely looking at a

1943
01:23:15,710 --> 01:23:13,470
quantum effect at a macro level and we

1944
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:15,720
are getting quantum physicists to start

1945
01:23:20,930 --> 01:23:17,520
looking at it with interest we are

1946
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:20,940
seeing them look at this stuff and say

1947
01:23:25,310 --> 01:23:23,370
hey you know why is this happening

1948
01:23:27,410 --> 01:23:25,320
that's exactly what we need we need

1949
01:23:29,570 --> 01:23:27,420
money thrown at it you know the only way

1950
01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:29,580
of course to do that is to get empirical

1951
01:23:33,380 --> 01:23:31,560
science to be interested in it that's

1952
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:33,390
what I'm trying to do I'm trying to take

1953
01:23:37,220 --> 01:23:35,520
it and be you know these physicists and

1954
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:37,230
say hey we'll explain this you know and

1955
01:23:42,020 --> 01:23:39,050
they're like scratching their head going

1956
01:23:43,490 --> 01:23:42,030
we'll try this and then we come back and

1957
01:23:45,650 --> 01:23:43,500
say well we tried that and this is what

1958
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:45,660
we got and then they go hmm I'll try

1959
01:23:49,850 --> 01:23:47,970
that you know and it's kind of like the

1960
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:49,860
the name game nobody really wants to

1961
01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:51,450
commit and yet they're all very

1962
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:53,940
interested right in this show and I show

1963
01:24:01,970 --> 01:23:56,000
up at your haunted site would with the

1964
01:24:07,010 --> 01:24:01,980
Groucho glasses and with the yelling for

1965
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:07,020
those Google glasses right yeah or the

1966
01:24:12,230 --> 01:24:10,410
Guy Fawkes masks you know this this

1967
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:12,240
brings up a couple of good points you

1968
01:24:17,420 --> 01:24:15,290
know you notice that these ghosts chose

1969
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:17,430
exclusively hunt for ghosts at night

1970
01:24:25,490 --> 01:24:20,960
yeah yeah and that's an interesting

1971
01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:25,500
question from Joey k22 he goes my

1972
01:24:29,210 --> 01:24:27,510
exposure to ghost owners comes mainly

1973
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:29,220
via television programs so excuse my

1974
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:30,690
ignorance on the topic

1975
01:24:34,730 --> 01:24:32,610
however why do ghost sons usually take

1976
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:34,740
place at night if there's an apparition

1977
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:36,480
why would the paranormal activity only

1978
01:24:40,700 --> 01:24:37,890
place take place at night and that's a

1979
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:40,710
really valid question yeah of course

1980
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:41,520
it's drama

1981
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:44,400
it sells cornflakes there's no reason in

1982
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:47,130
the world to to do it at night what what

1983
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:49,050
we do is we try to reduce the background

1984
01:24:53,420 --> 01:24:51,210
EMF in the environment when we do an

1985
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:53,430
investigation so if we are there in the

1986
01:24:58,190 --> 01:24:55,170
evening simply because people work in

1987
01:24:59,630 --> 01:24:58,200
the daytime we lower the light but we

1988
01:25:00,920 --> 01:24:59,640
don't turn off all the lights and bump

1989
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:00,930
around in this dark and tear their

1990
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:04,050
furniture up we work with maybe a lamp

1991
01:25:08,780 --> 01:25:05,970
on in each room or something that's kind

1992
01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:08,790
of low wattage and we're also using you

1993
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:12,510
know traps to remove 60-hertz from our

1994
01:25:18,410 --> 01:25:14,970
data set so we're not picking that up at

1995
01:25:21,020 --> 01:25:18,420
all that's a biggie and yeah but it's

1996
01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:21,030
basically drama some of the some of I

1997
01:25:25,970 --> 01:25:24,000
mean activity occurs 24/7 you know

1998
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:25,980
people may not may not notice it as much

1999
01:25:29,810 --> 01:25:28,110
in the daytime because there's all these

2000
01:25:34,490 --> 01:25:29,820
other things interfering with their

2001
01:25:35,570 --> 01:25:34,500
attention span but but you're not you

2002
01:25:38,090 --> 01:25:35,580
know you don't have to do it at night

2003
01:25:39,740 --> 01:25:38,100
you don't have to do it in the dark in

2004
01:25:42,110 --> 01:25:39,750
fact some of the best data we've caught

2005
01:25:45,650 --> 01:25:42,120
we've gone the daytime at Fort Mifflin

2006
01:25:49,370 --> 01:25:45,660
and in literally and in a bunker like

2007
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:49,380
and you know like an ammo bunker the

2008
01:25:55,490 --> 01:25:53,280
powder bunker so I mean it happens 24/7

2009
01:25:57,910 --> 01:25:55,500
there's just there's no rhyme or reason

2010
01:26:00,710 --> 01:25:57,920
to it occurring and as kind of a random

2011
01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:00,720
repetition in an accursed day or night

2012
01:26:07,010 --> 01:26:04,070
but you implied there's some sort of

2013
01:26:09,740 --> 01:26:07,020
attempt at controlling it well there

2014
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:09,750
seems to be there seems to be some type

2015
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:13,920
of intelligence behind its deployment

2016
01:26:17,570 --> 01:26:16,290
and don't take me wrong I mean I don't

2017
01:26:20,090 --> 01:26:17,580
think there's somebody sit behind a big

2018
01:26:22,910 --> 01:26:20,100
machine pushing a button doing it but

2019
01:26:25,490 --> 01:26:22,920
there just seems to be a certain

2020
01:26:27,740 --> 01:26:25,500
intelligence about it and there's also

2021
01:26:29,870 --> 01:26:27,750
interest quality as well there's the

2022
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:29,880
exactly the fact that you can leave one

2023
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:31,530
room and then all the activity occurs

2024
01:26:35,390 --> 01:26:33,360
where you were exactly where you're at

2025
01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:35,400
now and you have to go back yeah there's

2026
01:26:38,750 --> 01:26:36,360
a certain amount of intelligence

2027
01:26:40,340 --> 01:26:38,760
involved in it or what seems to be a

2028
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:40,350
certain amount of intelligence involved

2029
01:26:47,630 --> 01:26:44,000
in playfulness actually in someone

2030
01:26:50,750 --> 01:26:47,640
which which then which then suggest more

2031
01:26:52,970 --> 01:26:50,760
tricksters type agenda perhaps maybe

2032
01:26:55,670 --> 01:26:52,980
operative well here's a question on

2033
01:26:57,860 --> 01:26:55,680
another question from burnt State which

2034
01:27:00,680 --> 01:26:57,870
is a good one in and and this is one of

2035
01:27:02,210 --> 01:27:00,690
the types of this phenomena that have

2036
01:27:04,490 --> 01:27:02,220
been studied the most and that is the

2037
01:27:06,140 --> 01:27:04,500
poltergeist phenomenon and he wants to

2038
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:06,150
know if there are any commonalities to

2039
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:07,440
be found in the witnesses and

2040
01:27:13,580 --> 01:27:10,560
experiences of ghostly and poltergeist

2041
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:13,590
phenomena are these phenomena tied to

2042
01:27:16,430 --> 01:27:14,880
teenagers people who have suffered

2043
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:16,440
personal trauma in the past or two

2044
01:27:19,970 --> 01:27:17,610
individuals who are having very

2045
01:27:23,660 --> 01:27:19,980
complicated personal experiences

2046
01:27:26,330 --> 01:27:23,670
psychological issues as seen in famous

2047
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:26,340
poltergeist cases that's a good question

2048
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:28,560
now where do you draw the line and is

2049
01:27:34,130 --> 01:27:31,170
there an ability a latent ability

2050
01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:34,140
amongst some individuals to manipulate

2051
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:36,450
psychic kinetically their environment

2052
01:27:41,870 --> 01:27:40,320
definitely my Darrell departed friend

2053
01:27:44,150 --> 01:27:41,880
dr. William role who was probably the

2054
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:44,160
foremost authority on poltergeist right

2055
01:27:49,820 --> 01:27:48,210
did associate of puberty you know teens

2056
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:49,830
going through puberty with poltergeist

2057
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:52,290
activity and about 85% of the

2058
01:27:57,470 --> 01:27:53,970
situation's and probably could have done

2059
01:28:01,790 --> 01:27:57,480
it more had he had supporting data to do

2060
01:28:03,650 --> 01:28:01,800
that but you know I work studying

2061
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:03,660
mediums and how the media mechanic works

2062
01:28:08,690 --> 01:28:05,930
as well and it's a very similar process

2063
01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:08,700
mediums literally are getting emerging

2064
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:10,800
information that only they're like a

2065
01:28:15,260 --> 01:28:13,110
biological television set you know they

2066
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:15,270
have a higher level of magnetite in

2067
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:18,210
their brain and somehow or another that

2068
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:20,910
allows them to receive this information

2069
01:28:25,790 --> 01:28:23,370
and decode it I can literally see the

2070
01:28:28,310 --> 01:28:25,800
information what it looks like coming

2071
01:28:30,140 --> 01:28:28,320
into the environment I can't translate

2072
01:28:32,330 --> 01:28:30,150
it I can't tell you what it says they

2073
01:28:34,670 --> 01:28:32,340
can when they get it when they receive

2074
01:28:36,550 --> 01:28:34,680
that information it makes sense to them

2075
01:28:39,620 --> 01:28:36,560
they see things in their head whatever

2076
01:28:41,930 --> 01:28:39,630
but the mechanic of how that happens is

2077
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:41,940
the same effect and the same mechanic

2078
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:43,890
that's what happens during the haunting

2079
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:46,410
when you have a paranormal effect occur

2080
01:28:51,620 --> 01:28:48,930
so the mechanics are the same it's just

2081
01:28:53,450 --> 01:28:51,630
smaller scale so I believe people can

2082
01:28:55,730 --> 01:28:53,460
manipulate it absolutely I've seen them

2083
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:55,740
do it I've actually watched information

2084
01:28:59,610 --> 01:28:57,610
emerge and they begin to

2085
01:29:01,530 --> 01:28:59,620
walking and giving off information when

2086
01:29:02,910 --> 01:29:01,540
the information stopped they stopped and

2087
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:02,920
there was no way they could have known

2088
01:29:06,210 --> 01:29:04,450
that I was watching it and the

2089
01:29:07,140 --> 01:29:06,220
information stomach when they stopped

2090
01:29:08,460 --> 01:29:07,150
you know what I'm saying it was a

2091
01:29:09,570 --> 01:29:08,470
control to the enemy we've had

2092
01:29:13,140 --> 01:29:09,580
poltergeist

2093
01:29:15,870 --> 01:29:13,150
or rather EVP sessions where there's

2094
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:15,880
some sort of of this incarnate in from

2095
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:17,890
information voice whatever you want to

2096
01:29:21,330 --> 01:29:19,930
call it actually answered the question a

2097
01:29:25,050 --> 01:29:21,340
split second before the question was

2098
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:25,060
asked which I find the the interesting

2099
01:29:34,620 --> 01:29:29,110
time dilation aspect present in some of

2100
01:29:39,420 --> 01:29:34,630
these research trips that I've been on

2101
01:29:41,460 --> 01:29:39,430
and helping film and and assist that I'm

2102
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:41,470
no professional by any stretch of the

2103
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:44,560
imagination but I must say there's a

2104
01:29:49,860 --> 01:29:47,770
huge upsurge in interest in these

2105
01:29:53,010 --> 01:29:49,870
subjects out in the population it seems

2106
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:53,020
like every town has their own ghost

2107
01:29:59,250 --> 01:29:56,770
hunting crew and it's getting to the

2108
01:30:01,530 --> 01:29:59,260
point where there's a lot of just

2109
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:01,540
completely untrained people running

2110
01:30:08,370 --> 01:30:05,050
around kind of mimicking their their TV

2111
01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:08,380
heroes out there and I think the quality

2112
01:30:14,370 --> 01:30:10,960
of Investigation is is suffering as a

2113
01:30:16,230 --> 01:30:14,380
result of a lack of of scientific

2114
01:30:18,180 --> 01:30:16,240
training and background we have a

2115
01:30:22,230 --> 01:30:18,190
distant carnate announcement right now

2116
01:30:25,470 --> 01:30:22,240
coming up I'm sure David Rountree joins

2117
01:30:30,060 --> 01:30:25,480
Jeanne and Chris here is a closer with

2118
01:30:41,170 --> 01:30:38,950
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2202
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2203
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2224
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[Music]

2227
01:35:13,780 --> 01:35:09,530
we're going to evaluate that on a scale

2228
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:13,790
of 1 to minus 1 and I won't even presume

2229
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:15,650
to guess which it will be with Gina

2230
01:35:24,340 --> 01:35:20,410
Chris David Rountree is summoning up his

2231
01:35:26,260 --> 01:35:24,350
inner wormhole now earlier in this show

2232
01:35:29,290 --> 01:35:26,270
I just want to go back to this you talk

2233
01:35:32,350 --> 01:35:29,300
about intelligence does that mean when

2234
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:32,360
these apparitions do their thing they

2235
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:34,010
know full well what they're doing and

2236
01:35:40,900 --> 01:35:37,370
why they're doing it it certainly seems

2237
01:35:44,620 --> 01:35:40,910
indicative of that there certainly seems

2238
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:44,630
to be a lot of evidence that there is

2239
01:35:49,660 --> 01:35:48,170
intelligence behind it yeah we always

2240
01:35:50,460 --> 01:35:49,670
wanted to know if there's intelligent

2241
01:35:52,870 --> 01:35:50,470
life on earth

2242
01:35:54,970 --> 01:35:52,880
yeah well we're still wondering that

2243
01:35:59,740 --> 01:35:54,980
right we're still wondering Chris some

2244
01:36:02,590 --> 01:35:59,750
more questions I think a poultry guys

2245
01:36:04,330 --> 01:36:02,600
got ahold of my mute button right baby

2246
01:36:07,030 --> 01:36:04,340
would not want you to speak therefore

2247
01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:07,040
you should speak more okay here's a good

2248
01:36:12,130 --> 01:36:08,960
one this is a case that always

2249
01:36:14,020 --> 01:36:12,140
fascinated me and it's the the case of

2250
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:14,030
Don Decker the rain boy of Pennsylvania

2251
01:36:18,730 --> 01:36:15,970
this question comes from stagger Lee

2252
01:36:21,790 --> 01:36:18,740
who's one of our newer posters here at

2253
01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:21,800
forum dr. Perik as calm and he asks are

2254
01:36:25,540 --> 01:36:23,360
you familiar with the case of Don Decker

2255
01:36:27,220 --> 01:36:25,550
the rain boy of Pennsylvania where it

2256
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:27,230
was witnessed by many people including

2257
01:36:30,850 --> 01:36:29,210
the police were called in that this

2258
01:36:33,610 --> 01:36:30,860
young man would go into a trance and

2259
01:36:35,710 --> 01:36:33,620
make it rain indoors and that the rain

2260
01:36:38,620 --> 01:36:35,720
defied physics and then it could rain up

2261
01:36:40,210 --> 01:36:38,630
down sideways this case started right

2262
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:40,220
after dawn attended the funeral of his

2263
01:36:45,730 --> 01:36:43,040
grandfather was his lifelong abuser

2264
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:45,740
if familiar with this case what are your

2265
01:36:59,880 --> 01:36:49,730
thoughts man you know where do you guys

2266
01:37:02,500 --> 01:36:59,890
get this stuff a group of listeners also

2267
01:37:12,510 --> 01:37:02,510
questions that we have no idea where

2268
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:12,520
they reign boy yeah address that I mean

2269
01:37:20,850 --> 01:37:16,449
you know maybe a hyper hyper

2270
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:20,860
turkleton ducks or something yeah I kind

2271
01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:22,570
of I'm kind of an environmental

2272
01:37:26,910 --> 01:37:24,880
specialist you know I look at an

2273
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:26,920
environment I try to determine how that

2274
01:37:31,379 --> 01:37:29,650
an environment should be normal and when

2275
01:37:34,649 --> 01:37:31,389
it's not normal I try to find an answer

2276
01:37:35,790 --> 01:37:34,659
for it I mean I could speculate on all

2277
01:37:37,649 --> 01:37:35,800
this stuff but it would be pure

2278
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:37,659
speculation so what would be the point I

2279
01:37:43,169 --> 01:37:41,170
mean I could give you my best guess or

2280
01:37:46,649 --> 01:37:43,179
something like that but you know I just

2281
01:37:48,419 --> 01:37:46,659
I don't like to go there I prefer to

2282
01:37:50,879 --> 01:37:48,429
talk about what I know about and what I

2283
01:37:54,299 --> 01:37:50,889
can you know demonstrate from my own

2284
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:54,309
research and from my own experience so

2285
01:37:58,890 --> 01:37:55,840
some questions I just don't have an

2286
01:38:00,719 --> 01:37:58,900
answer you know I think uh somebody will

2287
01:38:03,449 --> 01:38:00,729
say you know that Dave he said sections

2288
01:38:05,729 --> 01:38:03,459
that you know he'll come back and haunt

2289
01:38:07,410 --> 01:38:05,739
me at some point yeah you better be

2290
01:38:10,919 --> 01:38:07,420
careful some of our listeners may buy

2291
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:10,929
locate and start hunting you're yeah I'm

2292
01:38:15,390 --> 01:38:11,530
sure

2293
01:38:17,819 --> 01:38:15,400
yeah get your insight check this out

2294
01:38:19,500 --> 01:38:17,829
yeah really I can say one thing there's

2295
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:19,510
certainly a human element involved in

2296
01:38:25,140 --> 01:38:22,719
everything that we do and and I will say

2297
01:38:29,580 --> 01:38:25,150
that the the observer effect that we

2298
01:38:30,959 --> 01:38:29,590
that we mentioned which is in quantum

2299
01:38:32,609 --> 01:38:30,969
mechanics like you know the wave

2300
01:38:34,770 --> 01:38:32,619
particle duality thing you know it could

2301
01:38:37,020 --> 01:38:34,780
be either or until right is achill act

2302
01:38:39,810 --> 01:38:37,030
of open hagen interpretation of the

2303
01:38:45,180 --> 01:38:39,820
Heisenberg uncertainty principle yes yes

2304
01:38:46,589 --> 01:38:45,190
or Roeder's cat but anyway certainly

2305
01:38:48,449 --> 01:38:46,599
there's a human element and there's also

2306
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:48,459
this thing called the human intent which

2307
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:52,570
the peer research lab at president spent

2308
01:38:57,569 --> 01:38:55,360
10 years researching and who now

2309
01:38:59,969 --> 01:38:57,579
currently dr. Lynne McTaggart is doing

2310
01:39:02,009 --> 01:38:59,979
seed growth experimentation with human

2311
01:39:02,759 --> 01:39:02,019
intent the human intent is a very

2312
01:39:05,790 --> 01:39:02,769
powerful thing

2313
01:39:08,669 --> 01:39:05,800
it's very documented or something to it

2314
01:39:10,410 --> 01:39:08,679
so we affect fact how much of it is the

2315
01:39:13,169 --> 01:39:10,420
human element how much of it is

2316
01:39:16,219 --> 01:39:13,179
something else that remains to be seen I

2317
01:39:18,569 --> 01:39:16,229
think both aspects are involved in it

2318
01:39:20,339 --> 01:39:18,579
it's one of the reasons why we wire our

2319
01:39:21,870 --> 01:39:20,349
own people when we're doing work it's

2320
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:21,880
it's one of the reasons why we're

2321
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:24,489
looking at how the human element occurs

2322
01:39:30,030 --> 01:39:27,610
how it affects the data we get there's

2323
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:30,040
definitely a human element here

2324
01:39:34,430 --> 01:39:32,050
in the equation you know how powerful

2325
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:34,440
there's an interactive nature to it the

2326
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:37,210
you know yeah if it goes if a ghost

2327
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:38,650
haunts a house and nobody is there to

2328
01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:42,400
see it does it is is it being there we

2329
01:39:47,130 --> 01:39:45,490
don't know you know so so you have to

2330
01:39:50,370 --> 01:39:47,140
have the observer in order for the

2331
01:39:52,260 --> 01:39:50,380
manifestation to be observed is what is

2332
01:39:54,450 --> 01:39:52,270
basically what you're saying so there is

2333
01:39:56,550 --> 01:39:54,460
an interactive quality well one of the

2334
01:39:58,800 --> 01:39:56,560
things that I found I've done quite a

2335
01:40:02,070 --> 01:39:58,810
number of unexplained livestock deaths

2336
01:40:04,620 --> 01:40:02,080
investigative work over the years and

2337
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:04,630
one of the things I found early on is

2338
01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:07,930
one of my best approaches in terms of

2339
01:40:12,870 --> 01:40:09,760
arriving on a scene where one of these

2340
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:12,880
animals has been targeted and disfigured

2341
01:40:19,110 --> 01:40:14,970
killed targeted and disfigured is

2342
01:40:20,610 --> 01:40:19,120
through bring a working dog with me and

2343
01:40:23,130 --> 01:40:20,620
allow the dog to be the first one

2344
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:23,140
introduced to the site how do you feel

2345
01:40:30,420 --> 01:40:27,450
about about animals and interactions

2346
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:30,430
with some of these haunted sites using a

2347
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:35,530
bio sensor such as a trained dog or I

2348
01:40:40,710 --> 01:40:37,930
know if someone that brings up parrot

2349
01:40:43,020 --> 01:40:40,720
that has a limited vocabulary to haunted

2350
01:40:44,250 --> 01:40:43,030
sites and when it gets around some of

2351
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:44,260
these energies that you're describing

2352
01:40:48,570 --> 01:40:46,330
the thing develops all these words and

2353
01:40:49,950 --> 01:40:48,580
can string them together which I find

2354
01:40:52,970 --> 01:40:49,960
very very intriguing where do you come

2355
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:52,980
down on using biosensors like animals

2356
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:55,840
well how do you correlate it I mean how

2357
01:41:03,050 --> 01:40:57,010
do you quantify it

2358
01:41:10,890 --> 01:41:07,260
well you know actually having trained

2359
01:41:14,700 --> 01:41:10,900
dogs I can and horses actually I can I

2360
01:41:16,980 --> 01:41:14,710
can envision some some possible ways to

2361
01:41:18,690 --> 01:41:16,990
go about it well I like that would

2362
01:41:21,810 --> 01:41:18,700
assume that you had a ghost to use as

2363
01:41:23,490 --> 01:41:21,820
bait and the first one right it wouldn't

2364
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:23,500
be easy that's for sure obviously with

2365
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:27,070
the cattle deaths there's thousands of

2366
01:41:32,010 --> 01:41:28,960
pounds of physical evidence that you

2367
01:41:34,910 --> 01:41:32,020
have at your disposal to to work with

2368
01:41:38,190 --> 01:41:34,920
the animal but you know I I do often

2369
01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:38,200
wonder like sometimes I'll see my cat

2370
01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:40,270
looking around the room and then it'll

2371
01:41:43,630 --> 01:41:42,880
it'll be like following something around

2372
01:41:46,330 --> 01:41:43,640
the room and there's not

2373
01:41:50,110 --> 01:41:46,340
in there and then it'll it'll freak out

2374
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:50,120
and run away or I've had dogs like a

2375
01:41:55,090 --> 01:41:52,370
friend of Mines dog one time all of a

2376
01:41:57,250 --> 01:41:55,100
sudden just freaked out and just started

2377
01:41:59,980 --> 01:41:57,260
quivering and shaking like it was in a

2378
01:42:03,370 --> 01:41:59,990
place of fear for no reason and totally

2379
01:42:05,380 --> 01:42:03,380
out of character for the Internet do

2380
01:42:07,570 --> 01:42:05,390
animals have an extended sensory range

2381
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:07,580
than humans absolutely absolutely they

2382
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:09,770
see visually further into the light

2383
01:42:16,450 --> 01:42:12,650
spectrum than we do they hear into the

2384
01:42:19,570 --> 01:42:16,460
audio spectrum more than we do who knows

2385
01:42:23,050 --> 01:42:19,580
what their actual sensory makeup is what

2386
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:23,060
they may sense you know as far as you

2387
01:42:28,990 --> 01:42:26,090
know that sort of thing we don't know my

2388
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:29,000
problem with doing it is certainly it's

2389
01:42:33,220 --> 01:42:31,610
it's it's good subjective evidence to

2390
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:33,230
observe an animal and how the animal

2391
01:42:39,430 --> 01:42:36,800
reacts but how do you quantify that data

2392
01:42:41,620 --> 01:42:39,440
wise will the animal acted weird I mean

2393
01:42:43,780 --> 01:42:41,630
it doesn't really demonstrate anything

2394
01:42:46,090 --> 01:42:43,790
well it doesn't demonstrate anything but

2395
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:46,100
it can it can also be a form of

2396
01:42:52,510 --> 01:42:49,370
validation if you could train the dog to

2397
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:52,520
be extra aware when your equipments

2398
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:54,890
starting to spike and if you do that

2399
01:42:59,620 --> 01:42:58,010
repetition enough that dog will pick up

2400
01:43:02,530 --> 01:42:59,630
on what it is that you're asking it to

2401
01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:02,540
to you know be where maybe maybe it also

2402
01:43:07,930 --> 01:43:05,450
maybe sensing the equipment itself you

2403
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:07,940
know so you know that's what I mean by

2404
01:43:12,910 --> 01:43:10,370
quantifying it how you quantify it we

2405
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:12,920
can't we can't really quantify it no we

2406
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:16,370
can draw some conclusions about this I

2407
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:19,010
just wanted to throw it at you sure I

2408
01:43:22,900 --> 01:43:21,110
mean I think it's anecdotal evidence

2409
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:22,910
that goes along with everything else but

2410
01:43:28,090 --> 01:43:24,410
you still need hard data to go with it

2411
01:43:30,610 --> 01:43:28,100
yeah well a Blowfish also wants to know

2412
01:43:32,950 --> 01:43:30,620
besides the animals and in the

2413
01:43:34,390 --> 01:43:32,960
possibility of them being a little bit

2414
01:43:37,480 --> 01:43:34,400
finer tuned and we are for certain

2415
01:43:40,810 --> 01:43:37,490
things certain energies what's your best

2416
01:43:44,620 --> 01:43:40,820
ghost story oh my god I'm sure you get

2417
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:44,630
that one a lot yeah well you know it's

2418
01:43:50,110 --> 01:43:47,570
like goes to such a weird term because

2419
01:43:52,180 --> 01:43:50,120
it covers so many different phenomena

2420
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:52,190
things you know well what's the what's

2421
01:43:56,569 --> 01:43:54,770
the most impressive manifestation that

2422
01:44:00,049 --> 01:43:56,579
you have seen while out in the field

2423
01:44:02,049 --> 01:44:00,059
I think probably the coolest thing I saw

2424
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:02,059
was I watched a room fill up with a

2425
01:44:08,449 --> 01:44:06,239
violet mist like it started from a

2426
01:44:10,399 --> 01:44:08,459
little dot like up near the ceiling and

2427
01:44:12,500 --> 01:44:10,409
then it just kind of was like a fog it

2428
01:44:15,889 --> 01:44:12,510
just kind of filled the whole room with

2429
01:44:19,159 --> 01:44:15,899
this like purple fog and then it smelled

2430
01:44:22,369 --> 01:44:19,169
like lilac perfume and then it just kind

2431
01:44:25,489 --> 01:44:22,379
of dissipated and it was absolutely no

2432
01:44:28,429 --> 01:44:25,499
explanation for it whatsoever it

2433
01:44:31,939 --> 01:44:28,439
literally you know how did that just

2434
01:44:33,949 --> 01:44:31,949
happen and it had to emerge it had to

2435
01:44:37,459 --> 01:44:33,959
emerge into the environment and then it

2436
01:44:39,889 --> 01:44:37,469
dissipated um and like I said it had a

2437
01:44:42,339 --> 01:44:39,899
smell like old-fashioned like toilet

2438
01:44:44,270 --> 01:44:42,349
water like your grandmother used to wear

2439
01:44:47,359 --> 01:44:44,280
well how did pretty how does energy

2440
01:44:49,909 --> 01:44:47,369
manifest in an olfactory sense I'm

2441
01:44:52,759 --> 01:44:49,919
confused here if there's no mass then

2442
01:44:53,839 --> 01:44:52,769
how could you have smell well have you

2443
01:44:57,619 --> 01:44:53,849
are you familiar with dr. Michael

2444
01:45:00,859 --> 01:44:57,629
Persinger 'he's work some yeah his brain

2445
01:45:04,099 --> 01:45:00,869
helmet and stuff yeah I'm stimulating a

2446
01:45:06,759 --> 01:45:04,109
different aspects of the brain you can

2447
01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:06,769
taste steak without eating you can smell

2448
01:45:11,839 --> 01:45:10,169
all kinds of different things but now

2449
01:45:14,719 --> 01:45:11,849
you know what that's a good way to have

2450
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a meal and not gain any weight isn't

2451
01:45:20,509 --> 01:45:17,969
that absolutely David Rountree joining

2452
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2474
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2475
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2476
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2477
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2478
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2480
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2481
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2511
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2512
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:03,090
here's Jane Steinberg I guess it's an

2513
01:48:07,550 --> 01:48:05,130
opportunity for survival food here

2514
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:07,560
you know freeze-dried and everything

2515
01:48:12,919 --> 01:48:11,130
imagine it tastes like a steak okay we

2516
01:48:15,020 --> 01:48:12,929
don't have any steakhouse sponsors

2517
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:15,030
though here David Rountree joins Gina

2518
01:48:17,810 --> 01:48:17,130
and Chris let's continue any more

2519
01:48:19,580 --> 01:48:17,820
questions

2520
01:48:24,620 --> 01:48:19,590
there's a few I think we've answered

2521
01:48:26,660 --> 01:48:24,630
some but Jim eh are more skeptical one

2522
01:48:29,450 --> 01:48:26,670
of our more skeptical members of the

2523
01:48:31,850 --> 01:48:29,460
forum the parrot caste calm has some

2524
01:48:33,740 --> 01:48:31,860
questions and I mean he says why do you

2525
01:48:36,109 --> 01:48:33,750
believe that electrical and barometric

2526
01:48:37,850 --> 01:48:36,119
tools can detect ghosts and such I think

2527
01:48:40,300 --> 01:48:37,860
we've we've kind of answered that that I

2528
01:48:42,740 --> 01:48:40,310
think ghosts again is a loaded word I

2529
01:48:46,069 --> 01:48:42,750
think you've done a good job David in

2530
01:48:47,419 --> 01:48:46,079
explaining your particular theories when

2531
01:48:50,620 --> 01:48:47,429
it comes to these things that we're

2532
01:48:52,490 --> 01:48:50,630
dealing with something uh a localized

2533
01:48:54,319 --> 01:48:52,500
manifestation of something non-local

2534
01:48:56,750 --> 01:48:54,329
basically he also wants to know do

2535
01:48:59,629 --> 01:48:56,760
paranormal phenomena affect our power

2536
01:49:01,850 --> 01:48:59,639
grids and barometers if so can we find

2537
01:49:03,229 --> 01:49:01,860
the effects but not the cars described

2538
01:49:06,410 --> 01:49:03,239
in common scientific or engineering

2539
01:49:08,330 --> 01:49:06,420
literature that's an odd question we do

2540
01:49:10,910 --> 01:49:08,340
know that it can affect electronics

2541
01:49:12,740 --> 01:49:10,920
because EMF effects electronics yeah

2542
01:49:14,450 --> 01:49:12,750
there's this whole thing about how EMF

2543
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:14,460
can affect electronics it's one of the

2544
01:49:19,700 --> 01:49:17,790
things that we guard data against for an

2545
01:49:22,700 --> 01:49:19,710
EMF pulse from a nuclear explosion for

2546
01:49:26,510 --> 01:49:22,710
example EMF does affect electronic

2547
01:49:27,709 --> 01:49:26,520
equipment it does affect data storage it

2548
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:27,719
affects a lot of things

2549
01:49:32,180 --> 01:49:29,520
so if EMF is emerging into the

2550
01:49:34,669 --> 01:49:32,190
environment as part of the paranormal

2551
01:49:37,250 --> 01:49:34,679
phenomena then certainly that's an issue

2552
01:49:39,229 --> 01:49:37,260
it could also be an issue as to what

2553
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:39,239
people experience by stimulating their

2554
01:49:43,550 --> 01:49:41,280
brain with a certain frequency of EMF to

2555
01:49:45,020 --> 01:49:43,560
experience that which brings back

2556
01:49:46,580 --> 01:49:45,030
another question how much of it is a

2557
01:49:50,089 --> 01:49:46,590
human experience or the human

2558
01:49:52,810 --> 01:49:50,099
interaction based on stimulation now my

2559
01:49:57,109 --> 01:49:52,820
interpretation in love in interrogation

2560
01:49:59,450 --> 01:49:57,119
as a result complaint bang yeah Jimmy

2561
01:50:00,890 --> 01:49:59,460
wants also know do you often have Bach

2562
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:00,900
readings because of your own in the

2563
01:50:05,420 --> 01:50:03,090
interaction with your tools or because

2564
01:50:07,250 --> 01:50:05,430
of weather changes and so forth and what

2565
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:07,260
natural sources have you identified that

2566
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:08,850
actually an affair with your readings

2567
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:12,810
besides obviously the sixty cycle you

2568
01:50:18,290 --> 01:50:15,840
know cloak that we all live under here

2569
01:50:20,770 --> 01:50:18,300
in in the United States fifty cycling in

2570
01:50:24,010 --> 01:50:20,780
Europe but what are some of the other

2571
01:50:26,740 --> 01:50:24,020
types of natural and possibly induced

2572
01:50:28,910 --> 01:50:26,750
factors that you have to guard against a

2573
01:50:31,250 --> 01:50:28,920
lot of people aren't understanding what

2574
01:50:32,930 --> 01:50:31,260
I do I can tell from the questions we're

2575
01:50:34,190 --> 01:50:32,940
looking at every aspect of the

2576
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:34,200
environment we're not just looking at

2577
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:35,040
sixty Hertz

2578
01:50:40,100 --> 01:50:37,110
we're looking at a full spectrum of

2579
01:50:42,440 --> 01:50:40,110
stuff so when something occurs that's

2580
01:50:45,110 --> 01:50:42,450
untoward it becomes very obvious very

2581
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:45,120
quickly that something is going on it's

2582
01:50:50,660 --> 01:50:47,489
weird for example if you're in a room

2583
01:50:52,670 --> 01:50:50,670
and the relative barometric pressure in

2584
01:50:57,140 --> 01:50:52,680
that room is say twenty nine millibars

2585
01:50:58,910 --> 01:50:57,150
and all of a sudden you've got an area

2586
01:51:01,820 --> 01:50:58,920
that's like two feet in diameter where

2587
01:51:02,959 --> 01:51:01,830
it's eighteen millibars you've

2588
01:51:05,390 --> 01:51:02,969
definitely got something unusual

2589
01:51:06,830 --> 01:51:05,400
occurring in the room because how do you

2590
01:51:09,590 --> 01:51:06,840
have a dramatic change in barometric

2591
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:09,600
pressure in a room that has constant air

2592
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:11,730
pressure in it but it sounds like a

2593
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:14,130
million E House of hurricane and it's

2594
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:15,810
almost like something just opened up and

2595
01:51:19,340 --> 01:51:17,250
there's a little vacuum there that's

2596
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:19,350
sucking in the air so I mean everything

2597
01:51:23,390 --> 01:51:21,210
has to be taken in perspective you have

2598
01:51:26,420 --> 01:51:23,400
to have everything you know you have to

2599
01:51:27,950 --> 01:51:26,430
be looking at a big picture in order to

2600
01:51:30,290 --> 01:51:27,960
determine if something's going on you

2601
01:51:32,030 --> 01:51:30,300
can't just like be selecting one thing

2602
01:51:33,290 --> 01:51:32,040
here or one thing there and saying oh oh

2603
01:51:35,630 --> 01:51:33,300
yeah it's ghost you know this is

2604
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:35,640
happening when you have to be able to

2605
01:51:39,770 --> 01:51:37,890
see everything in context and so what's

2606
01:51:41,660 --> 01:51:39,780
going on sure there's a lot of things

2607
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:41,670
you know somebody using a microwave that

2608
01:51:44,990 --> 01:51:43,410
has a faulty shielding and it can cause

2609
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,000
all kinds of havoc to occur in your

2610
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:47,520
house that can light up a fluorescent

2611
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:49,890
light without it being turned on or even

2612
01:51:54,380 --> 01:51:52,410
plugged in so I mean there's there's a

2613
01:51:57,440 --> 01:51:54,390
lot of things that can occur in your

2614
01:52:00,400 --> 01:51:57,450
home that can create paranormal like

2615
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:00,410
effects but you have to be aware of that

2616
01:52:06,380 --> 01:52:03,360
okay Gina I think you know basically the

2617
01:52:09,740 --> 01:52:06,390
questions are more of a kind of a ghost

2618
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:09,750
hunting bent if you will and I think

2619
01:52:13,879 --> 01:52:12,050
he's really addressed most of them so

2620
01:52:17,540 --> 01:52:13,889
I'd like to contain

2621
01:52:20,030 --> 01:52:17,550
by discussing some of your ideas for

2622
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:20,040
where your research and work goes from

2623
01:52:27,050 --> 01:52:24,110
here other than establishing better data

2624
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:27,060
replicating that data what other types

2625
01:52:35,020 --> 01:52:29,760
of plans do you have or what other

2626
01:52:42,919 --> 01:52:38,180
well we've got a lot of little side

2627
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:42,929
trips that are going on what what we've

2628
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:45,090
got doing is there's byproducts of each

2629
01:52:48,169 --> 01:52:46,770
thing we discover you know you discover

2630
01:52:51,290 --> 01:52:48,179
something and then that opens up a whole

2631
01:52:53,740 --> 01:52:51,300
nother bag of worms over here our medium

2632
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:53,750
research uncovered a statistical effect

2633
01:52:58,910 --> 01:52:57,360
about mediums the fact that about 80% of

2634
01:53:07,100 --> 01:52:58,920
all mediums suffer from symptoms of

2635
01:53:09,379 --> 01:53:07,110
fibromyalgia that led to is the

2636
01:53:11,660 --> 01:53:09,389
fibromyalgia actually a disease with

2637
01:53:13,550 --> 01:53:11,670
them or is it a symptom of the energy

2638
01:53:16,010 --> 01:53:13,560
that they're taking on and its effect on

2639
01:53:17,899 --> 01:53:16,020
their central nervous system which led

2640
01:53:20,359 --> 01:53:17,909
to a whole different series of studies

2641
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:20,369
where we were literally coming up with

2642
01:53:24,620 --> 01:53:22,170
these therapies to experiment with

2643
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:24,630
people to give them pain relief or to

2644
01:53:31,250 --> 01:53:27,330
give them you know temporary you know

2645
01:53:34,970 --> 01:53:31,260
relief from what they were experiencing

2646
01:53:38,030 --> 01:53:34,980
and that is a byproduct of studying the

2647
01:53:39,290 --> 01:53:38,040
medium mechanic so we're playing with

2648
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:39,300
that just because we have some many

2649
01:53:44,300 --> 01:53:41,250
people that are supporting with us and

2650
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:44,310
being our guinea pigs and stuff that are

2651
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:46,110
wanting some kind of relief from this

2652
01:53:49,580 --> 01:53:47,850
stuff and so we're doing that kind of to

2653
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:49,590
help them but it's interesting and

2654
01:53:54,140 --> 01:53:51,840
fascinating research as well and we're

2655
01:53:57,649 --> 01:53:54,150
starting to work with a neurologist on

2656
01:53:59,419 --> 01:53:57,659
it to get some medical you know like

2657
01:54:01,729 --> 01:53:59,429
supervision over what we're doing with

2658
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:01,739
it but it looks very promising because

2659
01:54:05,419 --> 01:54:03,449
we're using low-frequency EMF to

2660
01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:05,429
literally reset the nerve the neural

2661
01:54:11,629 --> 01:54:07,920
transmitters and receptors which is kind

2662
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:11,639
of cool that's going on and then we're

2663
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:13,770
of course going further into this whole

2664
01:54:18,260 --> 01:54:15,690
trying to prove that wormholes are

2665
01:54:20,959 --> 01:54:18,270
indeed real and that that's what we're

2666
01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:20,969
dealing with that's a byproduct of it

2667
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:24,510
and then we're also working on you know

2668
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:27,449
trying to determine the mechanic of

2669
01:54:33,709 --> 01:54:30,690
psychometry where objects may have

2670
01:54:35,839 --> 01:54:33,719
information on them that mediums are

2671
01:54:37,879 --> 01:54:35,849
able to or psychics are able to pick up

2672
01:54:39,169 --> 01:54:37,889
which there certainly seems to be a

2673
01:54:41,689 --> 01:54:39,179
great deal of anecdotal evidence

2674
01:54:43,430 --> 01:54:41,699
indicating there's something to that we

2675
01:54:46,370 --> 01:54:43,440
want to capture the information we want

2676
01:54:49,879 --> 01:54:46,380
to say okay what does the energy look

2677
01:54:51,469 --> 01:54:49,889
like what is it how can we capture it

2678
01:54:55,549 --> 01:54:51,479
how can we prove that there's energy on

2679
01:54:58,069 --> 01:54:55,559
this item hmm okay so if mediums have a

2680
01:55:00,439 --> 01:54:58,079
certain condition eighty percent of them

2681
01:55:01,850 --> 01:55:00,449
have that condition does that mean if

2682
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:01,860
you're looking for mediums you check

2683
01:55:06,379 --> 01:55:04,170
people with that condition well see

2684
01:55:08,270 --> 01:55:06,389
that's interesting because what my

2685
01:55:10,219 --> 01:55:08,280
particular instance is I haven't met

2686
01:55:12,350 --> 01:55:10,229
anyone yet with fibromyalgia that didn't

2687
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:12,360
have some kind of gift I'm sure that

2688
01:55:16,729 --> 01:55:14,010
there are some out there I just haven't

2689
01:55:19,850 --> 01:55:16,739
had a chance to measure any or to have

2690
01:55:21,259 --> 01:55:19,860
them there because it may very well be

2691
01:55:24,500 --> 01:55:21,269
that what we're dealing with would be

2692
01:55:26,930 --> 01:55:24,510
Universal and its scope to anyone who

2693
01:55:29,299 --> 01:55:26,940
had fibromyalgia or had the symptoms of

2694
01:55:31,669 --> 01:55:29,309
it what about other conditions any other

2695
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:31,679
conditions might be traced to someone

2696
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:34,650
who has these supposed abilities well

2697
01:55:39,739 --> 01:55:37,110
there's there's you know that's a good

2698
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:39,749
question working with mediums there's

2699
01:55:43,339 --> 01:55:41,760
different types of gifts that people

2700
01:55:45,439 --> 01:55:43,349
have it's amazing there's people that

2701
01:55:47,180 --> 01:55:45,449
are empathic they literally feel what

2702
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:47,190
everyone in the room is thinking which

2703
01:55:50,989 --> 01:55:49,530
would probably drive me crazy there are

2704
01:55:53,330 --> 01:55:50,999
people who are psychic I believe

2705
01:55:56,029 --> 01:55:53,340
everybody psychic I believe all psychic

2706
01:55:58,009 --> 01:55:56,039
ability as enhanced intuition and I

2707
01:56:00,319 --> 01:55:58,019
believe as such all of us are capable of

2708
01:56:01,759 --> 01:56:00,329
developing it mediumship is something

2709
01:56:03,529 --> 01:56:01,769
else I think there's physiological

2710
01:56:06,290 --> 01:56:03,539
differences involved in the individuals

2711
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:06,300
probably genetic in nature which allows

2712
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:07,530
them to do what they do

2713
01:56:11,540 --> 01:56:09,090
and then there's some individuals that

2714
01:56:14,299 --> 01:56:11,550
have all of these capabilities and they

2715
01:56:16,219 --> 01:56:14,309
must really have a tortured life people

2716
01:56:18,529 --> 01:56:16,229
go through having all of these abilities

2717
01:56:20,930 --> 01:56:18,539
and my ex-fiance was one of those people

2718
01:56:22,279 --> 01:56:20,940
who had all of those abilities you know

2719
01:56:25,370 --> 01:56:22,289
you just can't turn it off

2720
01:56:28,370 --> 01:56:25,380
so it really it can put you in bed for

2721
01:56:30,020 --> 01:56:28,380
several days so there's all sorts of

2722
01:56:31,549 --> 01:56:30,030
things that are going on because these

2723
01:56:33,770 --> 01:56:31,559
people are sensitive to energy they're

2724
01:56:35,689 --> 01:56:33,780
sensitive to a specific kind of energy

2725
01:56:38,509 --> 01:56:35,699
you know they may do four or five

2726
01:56:40,370 --> 01:56:38,519
readings and never have a problem but

2727
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:40,380
then they may do a reading on one person

2728
01:56:42,890 --> 01:56:41,280
and it puts them

2729
01:56:45,710 --> 01:56:42,900
for two days because that person's

2730
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:45,720
biofield was maybe not in phase with

2731
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:47,970
their own bio field and they took on

2732
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:50,010
that energy as a surface charge on their

2733
01:56:53,270 --> 01:56:52,290
body and they can't function now so

2734
01:56:55,130 --> 01:56:53,280
there's all sorts of little

2735
01:56:56,780 --> 01:56:55,140
idiosyncrasies involved and I can't even

2736
01:56:58,880 --> 01:56:56,790
tell you what all they're going to be

2737
01:57:00,860 --> 01:56:58,890
because we're just starting to explore

2738
01:57:03,020 --> 01:57:00,870
this I mean it's just something that

2739
01:57:05,090 --> 01:57:03,030
we're just finding out about going wow

2740
01:57:07,010 --> 01:57:05,100
this is interesting yes it's a brave new

2741
01:57:08,690 --> 01:57:07,020
world yeah exactly

2742
01:57:11,450 --> 01:57:08,700
you know I I've been in a situation

2743
01:57:14,830 --> 01:57:11,460
where four people were adversely

2744
01:57:18,410 --> 01:57:14,840
impacted by some some form of energy

2745
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:18,420
phenomenon that that occurred and by the

2746
01:57:23,150 --> 01:57:20,130
way if you have a comment or a question

2747
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about the power cast you write us news

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2749
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2750
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2773
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2774
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2775
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2776
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2777
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2778
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2779
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2780
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2781
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2782
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monetary asset as no one else's

2783
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2784
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amount of stuff that always did gold

2785
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2786
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2787
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2817
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2819
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I suffered severe hot flashes which

2820
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prevented me from sleeping all night it

2821
02:00:52,570 --> 02:00:50,690
was so hard to work because it continued

2822
02:00:55,750 --> 02:00:52,580
all day to have the hot flashes from how

2823
02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:55,760
I was exhausted and depleted after only

2824
02:00:59,740 --> 02:00:58,130
three weeks on one world wait I have no

2825
02:01:03,130 --> 02:00:59,750
hot flashes and I'm sleeping normally

2826
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2828
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2829
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2830
02:01:12,970 --> 02:01:10,400
of its protein content as glutathione

2831
02:01:14,530 --> 02:01:12,980
but due to toxicity and aging

2832
02:01:16,630 --> 02:01:14,540
it does not could glutathione be a

2833
02:01:18,790 --> 02:01:16,640
missing factor in optimal cell function

2834
02:01:20,620 --> 02:01:18,800
for your entire body if you restore the

2835
02:01:22,570 --> 02:01:20,630
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2836
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especially your glands and organs then

2837
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as a result your glands and organs work

2838
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2839
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2840
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2841
02:01:35,860 --> 02:01:32,150
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2842
02:01:46,479 --> 02:01:35,870
8 8 8 9 8 8 3 3 to 5 or visit one world

2843
02:01:54,459 --> 02:01:50,179
welcome back into the para cast the gold

2844
02:02:02,719 --> 02:01:54,469
standard of paranormal radio and now

2845
02:02:05,270 --> 02:02:02,729
here's Jane Steinberg with Jean and

2846
02:02:07,279 --> 02:02:05,280
Chris on the para cast Chris was about

2847
02:02:11,239 --> 02:02:07,289
to relate something really unusual

2848
02:02:13,069 --> 02:02:11,249
really strange well we we had you know

2849
02:02:16,279 --> 02:02:13,079
very gifted medium and I was gonna ask

2850
02:02:17,899 --> 02:02:16,289
you if you know Amy Allen she's featured

2851
02:02:20,270 --> 02:02:17,909
on one of the shows I think the dead

2852
02:02:22,669 --> 02:02:20,280
files I've worked with her on a number

2853
02:02:25,250 --> 02:02:22,679
of cases and she truly has the gift I'm

2854
02:02:27,229 --> 02:02:25,260
convinced of that and I was with her in

2855
02:02:30,049 --> 02:02:27,239
a couple that used to live in this one

2856
02:02:32,689 --> 02:02:30,059
particular very I don't know just a

2857
02:02:35,390 --> 02:02:32,699
nasty place I don't see how they lasted

2858
02:02:37,339 --> 02:02:35,400
two years there it's it's known as the

2859
02:02:39,739 --> 02:02:37,349
Sallie house and the ghost hunting

2860
02:02:41,419 --> 02:02:39,749
circles and I've been on you know quite

2861
02:02:44,479 --> 02:02:41,429
a number of investigations over the

2862
02:02:46,580 --> 02:02:44,489
years myself and I never felt anything

2863
02:02:50,689 --> 02:02:46,590
like this before and it really did

2864
02:02:53,509 --> 02:02:50,699
impact Amy it impact the depictions they

2865
02:02:55,429 --> 02:02:53,519
were they were all fell ill I was

2866
02:02:57,830 --> 02:02:55,439
incapacitated I had to sit down for

2867
02:02:59,419 --> 02:02:57,840
about 20 minutes I felt like my heart

2868
02:03:02,049 --> 02:02:59,429
was being squeezed I've never had that

2869
02:03:04,810 --> 02:03:02,059
feeling before in it and this was not

2870
02:03:08,540 --> 02:03:04,820
some sort of emotional sort of

2871
02:03:11,179 --> 02:03:08,550
overreaction or a hyper imagination I

2872
02:03:12,919 --> 02:03:11,189
was I was had my game face on I was I

2873
02:03:16,100 --> 02:03:12,929
was busy filming this whole thing and

2874
02:03:17,509 --> 02:03:16,110
operating gear and I don't really buy

2875
02:03:19,729 --> 02:03:17,519
into a lot of the drama around these

2876
02:03:21,919 --> 02:03:19,739
types of investigations but that really

2877
02:03:25,310 --> 02:03:21,929
surprised me and poor Amy really got

2878
02:03:26,390 --> 02:03:25,320
slammed yeah you know it's kind of

2879
02:03:29,479 --> 02:03:26,400
fascinating because the work we're doing

2880
02:03:31,159 --> 02:03:29,489
right now I believe that we're not very

2881
02:03:33,859 --> 02:03:31,169
far away from being able to certify

2882
02:03:35,449 --> 02:03:33,869
someone who's being genuine and if we

2883
02:03:37,250 --> 02:03:35,459
could do that I think it would add a

2884
02:03:38,870 --> 02:03:37,260
certain amount of legitimacy to the feel

2885
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:38,880
and also eliminate a lot of the fraud

2886
02:03:44,149 --> 02:03:40,650
and if something we're definitely

2887
02:03:46,279 --> 02:03:44,159
looking at obviously if a person is

2888
02:03:48,379 --> 02:03:46,289
getting information we can detect that

2889
02:03:50,449 --> 02:03:48,389
information we can do that now we can

2890
02:03:52,969 --> 02:03:50,459
detect the information and look at it we

2891
02:03:55,250 --> 02:03:52,979
can see it using a sensor and an

2892
02:03:57,649 --> 02:03:55,260
oscilloscope we can see the waveform

2893
02:03:59,390 --> 02:03:57,659
that they're getting we can see what

2894
02:04:01,970 --> 02:03:59,400
they're receiving it's

2895
02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:01,980
someone isn't receiving that I would

2896
02:04:06,530 --> 02:04:04,170
really have a hard time believing they

2897
02:04:08,959 --> 02:04:06,540
were genuine because where would the

2898
02:04:10,939 --> 02:04:08,969
information be coming from right is

2899
02:04:13,130 --> 02:04:10,949
there if you ever make it on I'd love to

2900
02:04:16,310 --> 02:04:13,140
accompany on one ear on one of your in

2901
02:04:18,020 --> 02:04:16,320
research exclusions I would love to go

2902
02:04:20,660 --> 02:04:18,030
out there as are you kiddin of the set

2903
02:04:22,689 --> 02:04:20,670
my gear up out in Sedona oh you have to

2904
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:22,699
see if there's anything to it

2905
02:04:29,990 --> 02:04:27,330
well to jerome because I actually saw a

2906
02:04:33,260 --> 02:04:30,000
I guess what would you call it a shadow

2907
02:04:36,860 --> 02:04:33,270
shadow figure up in Jerome which is two

2908
02:04:41,090 --> 02:04:36,870
towns west of Sedona notoriously haunted

2909
02:04:42,649 --> 02:04:41,100
to use that overused term but there's no

2910
02:04:44,510 --> 02:04:42,659
question in my mind that there's there

2911
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:44,520
was a couple of spots up there I could

2912
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:46,110
take you to some spots that I know your

2913
02:04:54,229 --> 02:04:49,290
gear would just uh have have a fun and

2914
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:54,239
happy time oh yeah I mean I've got you

2915
02:04:57,110 --> 02:04:55,530
know people I went to high school with

2916
02:04:58,760 --> 02:04:57,120
living out in Arizona and they keep you

2917
02:05:00,140 --> 02:04:58,770
know telling me to come out to come out

2918
02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:00,150
you know and I'd love to get out there

2919
02:05:05,180 --> 02:05:02,610
um but it's definitely a place on my

2920
02:05:07,459 --> 02:05:05,190
bucket list to go for sure well yeah

2921
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:07,469
keep keep our our contact information

2922
02:05:12,290 --> 02:05:09,890
handy you know I'll kind of help you out

2923
02:05:13,970 --> 02:05:12,300
I'm just down the hill from Sedona I

2924
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:13,980
lived there for five years hopes that's

2925
02:05:18,740 --> 02:05:16,290
cool yeah I just I just want to see if

2926
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:18,750
it's you know I hear all this stuff you

2927
02:05:23,149 --> 02:05:20,130
know I hear all these people talk about

2928
02:05:24,770 --> 02:05:23,159
it but I don't see any data you know I'd

2929
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:24,780
love to go out there and set my gear up

2930
02:05:28,490 --> 02:05:26,370
and let it run and see what happens just

2931
02:05:30,770 --> 02:05:28,500
see what happened know what's out there

2932
02:05:34,010 --> 02:05:30,780
do what it does know I could take you to

2933
02:05:35,750 --> 02:05:34,020
some spots got a whole list of them let

2934
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:35,760
me ask you something left field here

2935
02:05:39,620 --> 02:05:37,290
because you were talking about mediums

2936
02:05:42,470 --> 02:05:39,630
before we make no assumption about this

2937
02:05:44,899 --> 02:05:42,480
but Powell does one determine that a

2938
02:05:46,399 --> 02:05:44,909
medium has someone with some unusual

2939
02:05:49,070 --> 02:05:46,409
abilities and not someone who's really

2940
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:49,080
good at cold readings now the skeptic

2941
02:05:53,959 --> 02:05:51,530
will say it's all cold readings right

2942
02:05:55,970 --> 02:05:53,969
well he already answered that he says if

2943
02:05:58,399 --> 02:05:55,980
his gear of spikes while this person is

2944
02:06:00,050 --> 02:05:58,409
receiving information then that's an

2945
02:06:01,580 --> 02:06:00,060
indication of legitimacy well it

2946
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:01,590
indicates that something's happening not

2947
02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:03,210
necessarily if the person is giving you

2948
02:06:06,890 --> 02:06:05,130
information that they got from a strange

2949
02:06:08,450 --> 02:06:06,900
place that's true

2950
02:06:10,700 --> 02:06:08,460
let me give you an example of what I

2951
02:06:13,310 --> 02:06:10,710
would consider to be good evidence I'm

2952
02:06:15,140 --> 02:06:13,320
seeing information emerging

2953
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:15,150
from a point near the person giving the

2954
02:06:20,090 --> 02:06:17,730
reading they are giving information

2955
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:20,100
while that waveform is present when that

2956
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:21,570
waveform isn't present they're not

2957
02:06:24,590 --> 02:06:23,010
they're like I don't have any

2958
02:06:27,500 --> 02:06:24,600
information I'm not getting anything

2959
02:06:29,330 --> 02:06:27,510
direct I was in effect right the

2960
02:06:32,060 --> 02:06:29,340
information they're getting is real

2961
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:32,070
specific like your grandmother is

2962
02:06:37,310 --> 02:06:34,890
showing me this brooch that has a small

2963
02:06:39,170 --> 02:06:37,320
ladybug on it and there's this little

2964
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:39,180
yellow ribbon that's been attached to it

2965
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:40,800
that isn't part of the pit

2966
02:06:46,820 --> 02:06:45,210
I mean significant detailed explanation

2967
02:06:49,070 --> 02:06:46,830
that would be pretty difficult for

2968
02:06:51,950 --> 02:06:49,080
someone to know when you get that kind

2969
02:06:54,830 --> 02:06:51,960
of information coupled with the physical

2970
02:06:58,460 --> 02:06:54,840
what appears to be emerging of

2971
02:07:00,140 --> 02:06:58,470
information of some kind to me that's

2972
02:07:01,550 --> 02:07:00,150
kind of hard core they're getting

2973
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:01,560
something you know there's that there's

2974
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:04,290
a correlation there and when they're

2975
02:07:08,570 --> 02:07:06,210
saying names that are specific not like

2976
02:07:11,270 --> 02:07:08,580
John or you know when they're coming up

2977
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:11,280
with like a pet nickname for someone

2978
02:07:17,120 --> 02:07:14,130
that no one could know you know I mean

2979
02:07:19,850 --> 02:07:17,130
are these all coincidences after you

2980
02:07:22,370 --> 02:07:19,860
know about 80% hit rate you you have to

2981
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:22,380
give it some kind of credence yeah okay

2982
02:07:27,110 --> 02:07:24,930
so if we're talking about a medium with

2983
02:07:29,270 --> 02:07:27,120
an 80% hit rate and of course Chris

2984
02:07:31,070 --> 02:07:29,280
you've already mentioned one I'd like to

2985
02:07:33,950 --> 02:07:31,080
see that person on the power cast by the

2986
02:07:36,260 --> 02:07:33,960
way let's put the person to the test who

2987
02:07:38,330 --> 02:07:36,270
else do you think out there among all

2988
02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:38,340
the people who claim to have these

2989
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:41,250
abilities has an 80% or better hit rate

2990
02:07:52,010 --> 02:07:45,410
the ghost of Sylvia Browne may I believe

2991
02:07:53,780 --> 02:07:52,020
regurgitate off the air thank you but I

2992
02:07:56,660 --> 02:07:53,790
have worked with mediums that do have a

2993
02:07:58,520 --> 02:07:56,670
fairly high hit rate and like anything

2994
02:08:00,590 --> 02:07:58,530
else they have good days they have bad

2995
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:00,600
days I mean it's just like remember when

2996
02:08:04,430 --> 02:08:02,730
we had TVs or rabbit ears you know

2997
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:04,440
sometimes we get to know and sometimes

2998
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:07,050
we get a good program and the same thing

2999
02:08:10,940 --> 02:08:09,450
by the way with satellite radio you get

3000
02:08:13,970 --> 02:08:10,950
a delayed radio as I do

3001
02:08:17,630 --> 02:08:13,980
one day it's great the neck and one day

3002
02:08:19,370 --> 02:08:17,640
not it's not and you know what medium

3003
02:08:21,590 --> 02:08:19,380
suffer from the same thing because they

3004
02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:21,600
are a receiver of propagating

3005
02:08:26,990 --> 02:08:24,450
information so if the conditions aren't

3006
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:27,000
ideal for that propagation to occur the

3007
02:08:31,700 --> 02:08:29,250
information is not going to be clear and

3008
02:08:33,890 --> 02:08:31,710
people don't understand that about this

3009
02:08:35,510 --> 02:08:33,900
whole million thing they think well well

3010
02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:35,520
if you're a medium tell me this doesn't

3011
02:08:38,180 --> 02:08:36,330
work that way

3012
02:08:40,370 --> 02:08:38,190
oftentimes mediums don't get the

3013
02:08:43,220 --> 02:08:40,380
information in order the information is

3014
02:08:44,930 --> 02:08:43,230
in some kind of random order so they're

3015
02:08:46,820 --> 02:08:44,940
just saying things and nothing makes

3016
02:08:49,790 --> 02:08:46,830
sense and then all of a sudden and I've

3017
02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:49,800
watched this I watched my fiancee do it

3018
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:52,050
and it was amazing she would start

3019
02:08:57,620 --> 02:08:53,610
saying all this stuff and they would go

3020
02:08:59,750 --> 02:08:57,630
no no no no you're really not getting it

3021
02:09:01,640 --> 02:08:59,760
no and then she would say one thing and

3022
02:09:03,530 --> 02:09:01,650
then it all fell into place they would

3023
02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:03,540
go oh my god and they'd go oh yeah

3024
02:09:09,020 --> 02:09:06,450
justice it all made sense but because it

3025
02:09:11,630 --> 02:09:09,030
was coming out random and not an order

3026
02:09:14,060 --> 02:09:11,640
it made no sense to the person at first

3027
02:09:17,390 --> 02:09:14,070
and told that missing piece put it all

3028
02:09:19,070 --> 02:09:17,400
together now my fiance had no idea what

3029
02:09:21,650 --> 02:09:19,080
it meant she was just repeating

3030
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:21,660
information that was coming to her you

3031
02:09:27,230 --> 02:09:24,330
know she had no clue as to what it meant

3032
02:09:28,820 --> 02:09:27,240
and she her big thing was she wanted you

3033
02:09:31,070 --> 02:09:28,830
know confirmation she said you know

3034
02:09:32,990 --> 02:09:31,080
don't tell me anything she says but

3035
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:33,000
after I get done she says if I have

3036
02:09:36,500 --> 02:09:34,800
something she says I need confirmation

3037
02:09:38,420 --> 02:09:36,510
on it so I know I'm getting the right

3038
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:38,430
information and she would never ask

3039
02:09:43,130 --> 02:09:40,530
questions she would put something out

3040
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:43,140
and if the person acknowledged it was a

3041
02:09:47,570 --> 02:09:45,930
hit she would tell person don't tell me

3042
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:47,580
anything else you know let me give you

3043
02:09:51,350 --> 02:09:49,530
what I'm getting that and she would

3044
02:09:53,660 --> 02:09:51,360
continue to give everything out and then

3045
02:09:56,210 --> 02:09:53,670
after she would finish then they would

3046
02:09:58,010 --> 02:09:56,220
sit there and discuss further back and

3047
02:10:00,950 --> 02:09:58,020
forth and even more information would

3048
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:00,960
then come out so she would always come

3049
02:10:05,780 --> 02:10:03,210
in and when she would start talking with

3050
02:10:07,820 --> 02:10:05,790
them she would tell them not to tell her

3051
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:07,830
stuff she would say don't tell me things

3052
02:10:10,970 --> 02:10:09,450
let me say what I'm gonna say and then

3053
02:10:13,790 --> 02:10:10,980
after I finished with the information

3054
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then you tell me what part of it makes

3055
02:10:18,470 --> 02:10:15,720
sense to you and whatever we'll find an

3056
02:10:20,930 --> 02:10:18,480
or of what makes sense or not coming up

3057
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next with David Rountree with Jeanne and

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3085
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for the holidays a that's great but

3086
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while you're going over the river and

3087
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through the woods

3088
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professional burglars are choosing easy

3089
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targets to break into don't be an easy

3090
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target plug in fake TV full criminals

3091
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into believing someone's home at your

3092
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house watching TV

3093
02:12:04,740 --> 02:12:02,110
fake TV works a bit like the light on a

3094
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timer but fake TV is far more convincing

3095
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fake TV plugs into any outlet and

3096
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simulates the light and colors of a real

3097
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TV burglars will likely move on to

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alone fake TV cost less than a month of

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you're traveling over the holidays or

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3157
02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:49,410
hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

3158
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listening to the Peres Cass

3159
02:15:03,500 --> 02:15:01,550
I'm not a medium chris is not a medium

3160
02:15:05,900 --> 02:15:03,510
tell me more about your fiancee David

3161
02:15:08,630 --> 02:15:05,910
she has an 80% or better success rate

3162
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:08,640
yes she did actually she had a little

3163
02:15:12,650 --> 02:15:10,290
bit higher than that we've actually

3164
02:15:14,300 --> 02:15:12,660
found bones together we found all sorts

3165
02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:14,310
of stuff in the two and a half years we

3166
02:15:18,350 --> 02:15:16,890
were together and I got a chance to work

3167
02:15:22,340 --> 02:15:18,360
with her she was extraordinarily

3168
02:15:24,410 --> 02:15:22,350
accurate you say was is that past tense

3169
02:15:26,959 --> 02:15:24,420
oh yeah yeah we're not together anymore

3170
02:15:29,330 --> 02:15:26,969
we broke up the end of September early

3171
02:15:31,790 --> 02:15:29,340
October this year but her information

3172
02:15:33,380 --> 02:15:31,800
was very good and and I watched her work

3173
02:15:34,970 --> 02:15:33,390
I had the opportunity to even

3174
02:15:37,130 --> 02:15:34,980
double-blind test her in a couple of

3175
02:15:39,680 --> 02:15:37,140
situations for example I was doing an

3176
02:15:42,440 --> 02:15:39,690
investigation locally here at a

3177
02:15:45,500 --> 02:15:42,450
university of a very famous murder case

3178
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:45,510
it took place you know back in 1886

3179
02:15:49,580 --> 02:15:47,280
and I didn't tell her anything about it

3180
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:49,590
I just I was doing an investigation for

3181
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:51,360
two weeks prior to the investigation she

3182
02:15:55,970 --> 02:15:53,370
said you know I keep dreaming about this

3183
02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:55,980
old-fashioned kitchen not like we'll

3184
02:15:59,690 --> 02:15:57,840
explain the dream to me and she said

3185
02:16:01,790 --> 02:15:59,700
there's just it's a big kitchen it's got

3186
02:16:05,420 --> 02:16:01,800
this old like wood cook stoves it like

3187
02:16:08,990 --> 02:16:05,430
is for cooking lots of food and she

3188
02:16:10,729 --> 02:16:09,000
started describing what the 1800s

3189
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:10,739
kitchen of this College would have

3190
02:16:15,110 --> 02:16:13,410
looked like back in the time that it was

3191
02:16:17,270 --> 02:16:15,120
in existence before she knew anything

3192
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:17,280
about it was a college or where it was

3193
02:16:22,910 --> 02:16:20,130
or anything she started getting that

3194
02:16:24,170 --> 02:16:22,920
information and she said I don't do you

3195
02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:24,180
know anything about it and I said of

3196
02:16:27,320 --> 02:16:25,890
course no I was lying through my teeth I

3197
02:16:30,110 --> 02:16:27,330
said no I don't know anything about that

3198
02:16:32,450 --> 02:16:30,120
the night that I did investigation she

3199
02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:32,460
started describing the building to me

3200
02:16:36,620 --> 02:16:34,410
well the building didn't look anything

3201
02:16:37,969 --> 02:16:36,630
at all like what she was describing but

3202
02:16:39,980 --> 02:16:37,979
it turns out the building she was

3203
02:16:42,110 --> 02:16:39,990
describing burned to the ground in 1899

3204
02:16:45,110 --> 02:16:42,120
in the building that was there in its

3205
02:16:47,330 --> 02:16:45,120
place was built and finished in 1901

3206
02:16:49,040 --> 02:16:47,340
so the actual building that took place

3207
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:49,050
when the murder committed wasn't there

3208
02:16:52,669 --> 02:16:51,090
anymore didn't look anything like the

3209
02:16:55,640 --> 02:16:52,679
building that was there you know today

3210
02:16:57,350 --> 02:16:55,650
so she was literally describing the

3211
02:17:01,490 --> 02:16:57,360
building and the condition as it was in

3212
02:17:03,410 --> 02:17:01,500
1886 and she started describing a lot of

3213
02:17:05,480 --> 02:17:03,420
things that had to be historically

3214
02:17:08,330 --> 02:17:05,490
researched after the fact to determine

3215
02:17:10,970 --> 02:17:08,340
in that case and then she spent four

3216
02:17:13,610 --> 02:17:10,980
actual on sites as a tear

3217
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:13,620
we've got videos on YouTube about those

3218
02:17:17,270 --> 02:17:15,930
investigations and what she found during

3219
02:17:18,800 --> 02:17:17,280
those investigations so that's an

3220
02:17:21,410 --> 02:17:18,810
entertaining thing to watch just you

3221
02:17:23,330 --> 02:17:21,420
know Google David Roundtree in YouTube

3222
02:17:25,820 --> 02:17:23,340
and you'll come up with my my YouTube

3223
02:17:28,340 --> 02:17:25,830
page but we have a lot of video on there

3224
02:17:30,709 --> 02:17:28,350
of the work that we did together in the

3225
02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:30,719
last two and a half years she was very

3226
02:17:35,120 --> 02:17:33,210
accurate the information she came up the

3227
02:17:37,459 --> 02:17:35,130
problem that I saw with her was

3228
02:17:39,650 --> 02:17:37,469
interpretation of her information the

3229
02:17:41,420 --> 02:17:39,660
mistakes that she made weren't mistakes

3230
02:17:44,030 --> 02:17:41,430
and accuracy they were mistakes and

3231
02:17:45,890 --> 02:17:44,040
interpreting it for example there was a

3232
02:17:48,800 --> 02:17:45,900
missing persons case and was confident

3233
02:17:50,750 --> 02:17:48,810
she worked on she saw in her mind a

3234
02:17:53,180 --> 02:17:50,760
black dog and she kept thinking black

3235
02:17:55,070 --> 02:17:53,190
dog lake and she said it looked like a

3236
02:17:57,980 --> 02:17:55,080
black German Shepherd well the body was

3237
02:17:59,720 --> 02:17:57,990
found on shepard road so there's imagery

3238
02:18:01,459 --> 02:17:59,730
involved in the interpretation of that

3239
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:01,469
imagery as where a lot of the

3240
02:18:07,070 --> 02:18:04,770
disconnects were occurring with her but

3241
02:18:10,610 --> 02:18:07,080
still even with disconnects she was

3242
02:18:12,520 --> 02:18:10,620
hitting around 85 90 % okay but this is

3243
02:18:16,700 --> 02:18:12,530
not an ability she could turn on and off

3244
02:18:19,430 --> 02:18:16,710
no no she had it constantly oh yeah it

3245
02:18:22,880 --> 02:18:19,440
constantly so if she's someone who would

3246
02:18:24,770 --> 02:18:22,890
be willing to be put up in front of the

3247
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:24,780
public for public abuse or whatever

3248
02:18:27,709 --> 02:18:26,250
where you're not in touch with her

3249
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:27,719
anymore because of the relationship

3250
02:18:30,530 --> 02:18:29,130
thing yeah right

3251
02:18:32,660 --> 02:18:30,540
I mean I'd be something you'd have to

3252
02:18:34,100 --> 02:18:32,670
take over her well it's tough being in a

3253
02:18:39,500 --> 02:18:34,110
relationship with someone that's that

3254
02:18:45,400 --> 02:18:39,510
sensitive they also know when the

3255
02:18:48,110 --> 02:18:45,410
relationship is over and you don't I

3256
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:48,120
guess I got lucky David I almost had a

3257
02:18:53,240 --> 02:18:50,250
psychic the wife but she left before we

3258
02:18:55,310 --> 02:18:53,250
met well that's good I wish that would

3259
02:18:57,920 --> 02:18:55,320
have happened to me you knew they

3260
02:19:01,100 --> 02:18:57,930
wouldn't work yeah I wish they would

3261
02:19:02,660 --> 02:19:01,110
have happened to me but I did get a lot

3262
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:02,670
of good data in that two and a half

3263
02:19:06,410 --> 02:19:04,770
years so I really can't complain well

3264
02:19:08,330 --> 02:19:06,420
maybe we have some talented mediums out

3265
02:19:11,240 --> 02:19:08,340
there in the audience we're taping this

3266
02:19:13,550 --> 02:19:11,250
ahead of time so if anybody has real

3267
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:13,560
talent and skill and you believe in

3268
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:16,250
psychokinesis raise my hand right now

3269
02:19:23,870 --> 02:19:19,410
right there you go that's right pork

3270
02:19:24,620 --> 02:19:23,880
touch me kick me kick him in the head

3271
02:19:27,650 --> 02:19:24,630
just slap

3272
02:19:30,440 --> 02:19:27,660
they had like this like that yep anyway

3273
02:19:32,990 --> 02:19:30,450
and don't ham it a certain part of his

3274
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:33,000
mouth where he had a bad tooth had to

3275
02:19:37,219 --> 02:19:35,010
have a tooth removed yeah that's right

3276
02:19:39,650 --> 02:19:37,229
don't bill not my partial out I'd be

3277
02:19:42,110 --> 02:19:39,660
like please we can't have that kind of

3278
02:19:45,379 --> 02:19:42,120
violence but seriously speaking I would

3279
02:19:47,330 --> 02:19:45,389
love to see a medium on the show and put

3280
02:19:49,580 --> 02:19:47,340
them through their paces and see what

3281
02:19:52,639 --> 02:19:49,590
happens and I'm not coming into it with

3282
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:52,649
belief or disbelief and I don't want

3283
02:19:56,750 --> 02:19:54,330
someone who says I can't perform because

3284
02:19:58,790 --> 02:19:56,760
we have skeptics in the room that's

3285
02:20:01,340 --> 02:19:58,800
that's not true either I mean that's

3286
02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:01,350
what that's a bogus thing - she's had

3287
02:20:04,610 --> 02:20:03,570
people that came up to her at shows that

3288
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:04,620
we were doing when we were doing

3289
02:20:09,020 --> 02:20:07,410
conferences and I was speaking she had a

3290
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:09,030
person literally it came in and said

3291
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:10,560
I'll I want you to give me a reading

3292
02:20:15,219 --> 02:20:13,290
about my son and my mother and Tracey

3293
02:20:18,080 --> 02:20:15,229
sat there for a few minutes and she said

3294
02:20:19,580 --> 02:20:18,090
you know I'm not getting anything you

3295
02:20:20,960 --> 02:20:19,590
know the woman tried to pay her and she

3296
02:20:23,170 --> 02:20:20,970
says now she says I'm not taking your

3297
02:20:25,550 --> 02:20:23,180
money she said I didn't get anything

3298
02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:25,560
later the woman came up to her and

3299
02:20:30,139 --> 02:20:27,570
apologized to her and she says yeah my

3300
02:20:35,450 --> 02:20:30,149
my mother and mine my son are still

3301
02:20:37,280 --> 02:20:35,460
alive and Tracey was pissed she said why

3302
02:20:39,530 --> 02:20:37,290
did you ask that she says well I wanted

3303
02:20:42,380 --> 02:20:39,540
to make sure that you were real and she

3304
02:20:44,210 --> 02:20:42,390
said Tracey told her she said well I can

3305
02:20:46,280 --> 02:20:44,220
understand why you would do that she

3306
02:20:47,620 --> 02:20:46,290
said but why don't you just ask me a

3307
02:20:51,020 --> 02:20:47,630
question that you know the answer to

3308
02:20:52,310 --> 02:20:51,030
about someone who's dead and let me get

3309
02:20:53,840 --> 02:20:52,320
it that way she said don't you think

3310
02:20:56,389 --> 02:20:53,850
that would be a better test and yes

3311
02:20:58,370 --> 02:20:56,399
dirty pulling here and and make me think

3312
02:21:01,250 --> 02:20:58,380
and tried to contact someone who isn't

3313
02:21:03,770 --> 02:21:01,260
there yes you know so she was pretty

3314
02:21:05,960 --> 02:21:03,780
pissed about it but she has had people

3315
02:21:09,110 --> 02:21:05,970
test her she has if people try to set

3316
02:21:10,639 --> 02:21:09,120
her up and try to fool her but really

3317
02:21:12,260 --> 02:21:10,649
she gets her information I mean and she

3318
02:21:14,300 --> 02:21:12,270
puts it out and she doesn't you know she

3319
02:21:17,179 --> 02:21:14,310
she tells people what she gets

3320
02:21:18,889 --> 02:21:17,189
and half the time she doesn't get any

3321
02:21:22,070 --> 02:21:18,899
money for it she just tells people stuff

3322
02:21:23,900 --> 02:21:22,080
so there's not a greed motivating factor

3323
02:21:26,090 --> 02:21:23,910
in it well about the other hand at the

3324
02:21:28,610 --> 02:21:26,100
time when she does get paid for it well

3325
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:28,620
I mean I had to you know make her take

3326
02:21:34,370 --> 02:21:30,930
money for it because what happens is she

3327
02:21:36,830 --> 02:21:34,380
gets sick doing it and then she can't

3328
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:36,840
function for two or three days and I

3329
02:21:39,890 --> 02:21:38,250
said you know she

3330
02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:39,900
to get like she finally started charging

3331
02:21:46,460 --> 02:21:42,720
like $25 do a reading for somebody which

3332
02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:46,470
I thought was a fair amount because

3333
02:21:49,610 --> 02:21:48,090
again like I say she could do five

3334
02:21:51,340 --> 02:21:49,620
readings and be fine she could do that

3335
02:21:53,390 --> 02:21:51,350
six reading and be in bed for two days

3336
02:21:55,070 --> 02:21:53,400
and not be able to get out of bed and I

3337
02:21:57,650 --> 02:21:55,080
said you know people have to understand

3338
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:57,660
that it's like anything else you are

3339
02:22:03,290 --> 02:21:59,760
using your body resources to do this

3340
02:22:04,460 --> 02:22:03,300
it's work you are working and you're

3341
02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:04,470
giving a service to somebody

3342
02:22:07,670 --> 02:22:05,730
particularly if you're giving them

3343
02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:07,680
information that is ringing home with

3344
02:22:12,740 --> 02:22:10,530
them and there's I don't have any issue

3345
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:12,750
with people charging for that service

3346
02:22:16,130 --> 02:22:14,250
it's just like going to a doctor or

3347
02:22:18,290 --> 02:22:16,140
going to anything else you know getting

3348
02:22:20,300 --> 02:22:18,300
your lawn mowed someone does a service

3349
02:22:22,940 --> 02:22:20,310
for you you pay them for the service now

3350
02:22:26,150 --> 02:22:22,950
I agree that paying someone you know

3351
02:22:29,660 --> 02:22:26,160
$1,000 for a reading like a certain dead

3352
02:22:31,310 --> 02:22:29,670
psychic we know about used to do I I'm

3353
02:22:35,420 --> 02:22:31,320
an I think that's ridiculous

3354
02:22:38,060 --> 02:22:35,430
but I think if you charge a fair fee for

3355
02:22:39,740 --> 02:22:38,070
the time you spend with somebody I don't

3356
02:22:43,610 --> 02:22:39,750
have any issue with that if you're

3357
02:22:45,110 --> 02:22:43,620
genuine but she had trouble she felt

3358
02:22:46,700 --> 02:22:45,120
like she shouldn't charge people because

3359
02:22:48,410 --> 02:22:46,710
she felt it was a gift and she shouldn't

3360
02:22:52,520 --> 02:22:48,420
charge and anything or anything else

3361
02:22:53,930 --> 02:22:52,530
um and so she may be charged in the

3362
02:22:56,930 --> 02:22:53,940
course of two and a half years I maybe

3363
02:23:00,440 --> 02:22:56,940
saw her charge maybe ten people rest of

3364
02:23:04,370 --> 02:23:00,450
the time she just told people stuff did

3365
02:23:05,690 --> 02:23:04,380
it for free Chris I was just checking

3366
02:23:09,560 --> 02:23:05,700
out see if we had any more questions

3367
02:23:12,050 --> 02:23:09,570
here okay here's one from Poulter worst

3368
02:23:14,240 --> 02:23:12,060
who's one of our active members on the

3369
02:23:18,260 --> 02:23:14,250
podcast for him at forum dr. Peric

3370
02:23:21,050 --> 02:23:18,270
ask.com and he asked and I think this is

3371
02:23:23,240 --> 02:23:21,060
a we've touched on this a little bit and

3372
02:23:24,470 --> 02:23:23,250
since we're talking about mediums this

3373
02:23:26,990 --> 02:23:24,480
might be a good time to throw this

3374
02:23:28,820 --> 02:23:27,000
question him do you think haunting

3375
02:23:31,540 --> 02:23:28,830
phenomena might be caused by something

3376
02:23:33,980 --> 02:23:31,550
called disincarnate consciousness if so

3377
02:23:35,180 --> 02:23:33,990
what do you say to researchers who think

3378
02:23:36,800 --> 02:23:35,190
that the only way to detect

3379
02:23:40,790 --> 02:23:36,810
consciousness might be consciousness

3380
02:23:42,050 --> 02:23:40,800
itself like a psychic or medium or the

3381
02:23:44,510 --> 02:23:42,060
perceptions and feelings of the

3382
02:23:46,310 --> 02:23:44,520
researchers themselves and that

3383
02:23:48,860 --> 02:23:46,320
technical equipment is basically useless

3384
02:23:50,720 --> 02:23:48,870
I think you've demonstrated that that

3385
02:23:52,150 --> 02:23:50,730
we're actually making strides with the

3386
02:23:54,670 --> 02:23:52,160
technical equipment but

3387
02:23:56,610 --> 02:23:54,680
right what about this whole idea only

3388
02:23:59,679 --> 02:23:56,620
consciousness can did tech consciousness

3389
02:24:01,929 --> 02:23:59,689
here's the thing okay let me put up my

3390
02:24:04,300 --> 02:24:01,939
hand here that's a good start anyway

3391
02:24:06,610 --> 02:24:04,310
don't you think that's a good point for

3392
02:24:08,139 --> 02:24:06,620
a cliffhanger mother famous para cast

3393
02:24:09,820 --> 02:24:08,149
cliffhangers where you have to wait for

3394
02:24:12,219 --> 02:24:09,830
the announcements to hear the answer

3395
02:24:14,679 --> 02:24:12,229
from our guest David Rountree so stay

3396
02:24:17,020 --> 02:24:14,689
with us we have just one segment left

3397
02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:17,030
for this episode with gene and Chris

3398
02:24:29,140 --> 02:24:20,130
you're in the para cast

3399
02:24:31,360 --> 02:24:29,150
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of a per key light the burka guy is also

3471
02:27:25,090 --> 02:27:22,249
offering a set of fluoride and arsenic

3472
02:27:26,559 --> 02:27:25,100
filters for only $39.99 that's over 30

3473
02:27:28,870 --> 02:27:26,569
percent off the retail price

3474
02:27:31,059 --> 02:27:28,880
call the burka guy at one eight seventy

3475
02:27:33,279 --> 02:27:31,069
seven eight eight six three six five

3476
02:27:35,979 --> 02:27:33,289
three that's one eight seven seven eight

3477
02:27:38,559 --> 02:27:35,989
eight six three six five three or order

3478
02:27:41,319 --> 02:27:38,569
online at Gober Keep Calm that's Gober

3479
02:27:42,689 --> 02:27:41,329
Keep Calm today you're fired according

3480
02:27:44,409 --> 02:27:42,699
to the Small Business Administration

3481
02:27:47,139 --> 02:27:44,419
seventy-five percent of small businesses

3482
02:27:48,159 --> 02:27:47,149
plan to eliminate jobs or reduce workers

3483
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:48,169
hours to part-time

3484
02:27:51,639 --> 02:27:50,090
you're fired according to Gallup the

3485
02:27:53,109 --> 02:27:51,649
unemployment rate recently jumped to

3486
02:27:55,059 --> 02:27:53,119
nearly nine percent and the

3487
02:27:57,159 --> 02:27:55,069
underemployment rate hit a staggering

3488
02:27:57,670 --> 02:27:57,169
seventeen point nine percent you're

3489
02:27:59,559 --> 02:27:57,680
fired

3490
02:28:01,689 --> 02:27:59,569
one out of three young adults and one

3491
02:28:04,269 --> 02:28:01,699
out of two recent college graduates are

3492
02:28:05,469 --> 02:28:04,279
underemployed hello I'm Keith Abel a

3493
02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:05,479
pharmacist and a home business

3494
02:28:09,429 --> 02:28:07,850
entrepreneur in 2011 I became one of

3495
02:28:10,659 --> 02:28:09,439
those statistics myself instead of

3496
02:28:12,819 --> 02:28:10,669
looking for another job in corporate

3497
02:28:14,529 --> 02:28:12,829
America I joined dr. Joel Wallace the

3498
02:28:15,969 --> 02:28:14,539
dead doctors don't lie guy we're

3499
02:28:17,979 --> 02:28:15,979
creating steady incomes for ourselves

3500
02:28:19,599 --> 02:28:17,989
and would like to show you how to do the

3501
02:28:21,760 --> 02:28:19,609
same if you want to supplement your

3502
02:28:23,080 --> 02:28:21,770
current income replace your income so

3503
02:28:24,819 --> 02:28:23,090
you don't have to become one of the

3504
02:28:27,849 --> 02:28:24,829
statistics then give me a call toll free

3505
02:28:30,489 --> 02:28:27,859
at eight six six two five seven three

3506
02:28:33,069 --> 02:28:30,499
one zero five eight six six two five

3507
02:28:34,179 --> 02:28:33,079
seven three one zero five you're fired

3508
02:28:36,069 --> 02:28:34,189
don't wait til you hear those words

3509
02:28:38,500 --> 02:28:36,079
start creating an extra income today

3510
02:28:41,150 --> 02:28:38,510
eight six six two five seven three one

3511
02:28:43,420 --> 02:28:41,160
zero five

3512
02:28:46,490 --> 02:28:43,430
[Music]

3513
02:28:49,820 --> 02:28:46,500
hi this is nuclear physicist lecturers

3514
02:28:53,660 --> 02:28:49,830
and Friedman you are listening to the

3515
02:29:00,530 --> 02:28:53,670
para cast the gold standard a paranormal

3516
02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:00,540
radio with gene and Krishna the para

3517
02:29:04,340 --> 02:29:02,010
cast one more segment with David

3518
02:29:05,750 --> 02:29:04,350
Rountree and we had one more question

3519
02:29:09,080 --> 02:29:05,760
from our audience

3520
02:29:12,410 --> 02:29:09,090
Christopher posed the question and David

3521
02:29:14,330 --> 02:29:12,420
will answer the question David yeah if

3522
02:29:16,011 --> 02:29:14,340
we can hear it feel it touch it taste it

3523
02:29:18,110 --> 02:29:16,021
smell it or experience it in any way it

3524
02:29:19,730 --> 02:29:18,120
has to follow the laws of physics okay

3525
02:29:21,860 --> 02:29:19,740
no feathery realms none of that other

3526
02:29:24,050 --> 02:29:21,870
stuff it has to follow the laws of

3527
02:29:26,530 --> 02:29:24,060
physics or we wouldn't experience it

3528
02:29:29,570 --> 02:29:26,540
period everything leaves a marker

3529
02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:29,580
everything the consciousness what is the

3530
02:29:33,470 --> 02:29:31,290
consciousness first of all we have to

3531
02:29:35,450 --> 02:29:33,480
define what that is what is the

3532
02:29:38,840 --> 02:29:35,460
consciousness it's got to be some kind

3533
02:29:42,140 --> 02:29:38,850
of energy it has to be as such it's

3534
02:29:44,390 --> 02:29:42,150
detectable if we can detect it then

3535
02:29:47,780 --> 02:29:44,400
maybe we can get a little more finite

3536
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:47,790
answer to this question we're certainly

3537
02:29:52,370 --> 02:29:50,130
making strides along that path by

3538
02:29:54,380 --> 02:29:52,380
developing equipment specifically to

3539
02:29:55,880 --> 02:29:54,390
look for these signatures and we have

3540
02:29:58,970 --> 02:29:55,890
found signatures that are very

3541
02:30:01,310 --> 02:29:58,980
tantalizing look almost like a bio field

3542
02:30:04,250 --> 02:30:01,320
type construct in there and the way that

3543
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:04,260
they propagate so do I believe it takes

3544
02:30:08,380 --> 02:30:06,330
consciousness to detect consciousness I

3545
02:30:12,230 --> 02:30:08,390
think maybe that's a subjective

3546
02:30:15,080 --> 02:30:12,240
statement I think I couldn't answer that

3547
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:15,090
part of it do I think technology can

3548
02:30:19,400 --> 02:30:17,850
measure yes I do not only do I think

3549
02:30:20,840 --> 02:30:19,410
technology can measure

3550
02:30:24,530 --> 02:30:20,850
I think we're getting very close to

3551
02:30:26,420 --> 02:30:24,540
measuring it and that being the case we

3552
02:30:28,761 --> 02:30:26,430
would be able to define these terms a

3553
02:30:31,370 --> 02:30:28,771
little bit better in order to answer

3554
02:30:32,750 --> 02:30:31,380
that question because really to answer

3555
02:30:34,550 --> 02:30:32,760
that question right now would require a

3556
02:30:35,180 --> 02:30:34,560
certain amount of speculation do we all

3557
02:30:38,300 --> 02:30:35,190
agree on that

3558
02:30:41,540 --> 02:30:38,310
hello I don't know I'll leave it up to

3559
02:30:44,030 --> 02:30:41,550
you yeah I mean I personally feel we

3560
02:30:45,740 --> 02:30:44,040
would have to do some speculating on the

3561
02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:45,750
final outcome of that to answer that

3562
02:30:51,550 --> 02:30:49,410
question properly I believe technology

3563
02:30:54,470 --> 02:30:51,560
will be able to document and measure it

3564
02:30:54,950 --> 02:30:54,480
that's what I believe do I believe the

3565
02:30:59,900 --> 02:30:54,960
conscious

3566
02:31:03,050 --> 02:30:59,910
certainly we see that in the form of

3567
02:31:04,550 --> 02:31:03,060
mediumship and everything else I think

3568
02:31:06,920 --> 02:31:04,560
it's going to take both of these things

3569
02:31:10,969 --> 02:31:06,930
married together to offer the final

3570
02:31:14,300 --> 02:31:10,979
proof of the pudding hmm good point and

3571
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:14,310
and then maybe we can approach the Randi

3572
02:31:18,590 --> 02:31:16,080
Foundation and get that million dollars

3573
02:31:22,670 --> 02:31:18,600
I don't feel there were any chance that

3574
02:31:25,010 --> 02:31:22,680
he'll ever pay now he will never pay it

3575
02:31:26,540 --> 02:31:25,020
because he's a professional skeptic he

3576
02:31:28,250 --> 02:31:26,550
will never believe a paranormal event

3577
02:31:31,010 --> 02:31:28,260
occurred if one sucked him away to

3578
02:31:33,620 --> 02:31:31,020
another dimension be careful using the

3579
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:33,630
word suck and Randi in the same sense Oh

3580
02:31:40,280 --> 02:31:36,570
no point being here is that he's getting

3581
02:31:45,020 --> 02:31:40,290
on a little bit years and there isn't a

3582
02:31:47,480 --> 02:31:45,030
lot of time yep and I don't believe that

3583
02:31:49,969 --> 02:31:47,490
it will ever occur that he would pay out

3584
02:31:51,560 --> 02:31:49,979
because he would always say well I can

3585
02:31:53,480 --> 02:31:51,570
reproduce this and he could bring in all

3586
02:31:56,030 --> 02:31:53,490
this different expensive equipment and

3587
02:31:57,770 --> 02:31:56,040
do a magician's trick and do that and

3588
02:32:00,560 --> 02:31:57,780
say therefore if I can create it it's

3589
02:32:02,690 --> 02:32:00,570
not paranormal however stands all the

3590
02:32:05,960 --> 02:32:02,700
equipment he brings in the effect occurs

3591
02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:05,970
how does he explain it you know good

3592
02:32:11,620 --> 02:32:07,050
that's my point

3593
02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:11,630
reproduce anything in this day and time

3594
02:32:17,990 --> 02:32:14,010
however if you take all the things away

3595
02:32:19,969 --> 02:32:18,000
that reproduce it and you have it well

3596
02:32:22,310 --> 02:32:19,979
common sense tells you that there's

3597
02:32:24,500 --> 02:32:22,320
something else going on there you know

3598
02:32:26,030 --> 02:32:24,510
understanding what's going on I believe

3599
02:32:28,760 --> 02:32:26,040
is more important than trying to

3600
02:32:32,360 --> 02:32:28,770
disprove it going on sure you have to

3601
02:32:33,620 --> 02:32:32,370
debunk everything you know you you have

3602
02:32:36,440 --> 02:32:33,630
to take things apart

3603
02:32:39,350 --> 02:32:36,450
you have to debunk them but on the other

3604
02:32:41,810 --> 02:32:39,360
hand you also have to do it objectively

3605
02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:41,820
you have to look at it objectively and

3606
02:32:49,100 --> 02:32:43,770
you also have to have an open mind and

3607
02:32:50,420 --> 02:32:49,110
not be convinced of the outcome no yeah

3608
02:32:52,040 --> 02:32:50,430
I don't worry free judge but the

3609
02:32:54,620 --> 02:32:52,050
question I would have and this is the

3610
02:32:58,580 --> 02:32:54,630
final segment of the show folks and that

3611
02:33:00,680 --> 02:32:58,590
is what's the long term flam the endgame

3612
02:33:02,450 --> 02:33:00,690
where do we take this to get more

3613
02:33:04,550 --> 02:33:02,460
acceptance from scientists you're trying

3614
02:33:07,460 --> 02:33:04,560
to measure everything quantify it where

3615
02:33:14,550 --> 02:33:11,250
God you know these are good questions

3616
02:33:19,250 --> 02:33:14,560
yes you guys ask good question that's

3617
02:33:23,150 --> 02:33:19,260
correct the end game for me would be to

3618
02:33:25,940 --> 02:33:23,160
have science establish a legitimate

3619
02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:25,950
investigation into this stuff to

3620
02:33:30,660 --> 02:33:28,090
investigate the unexplained instead of

3621
02:33:34,050 --> 02:33:30,670
explaining the uninvestigated that would

3622
02:33:38,280 --> 02:33:34,060
be my endgame if I could get science to

3623
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:38,290
seriously look at it again and to

3624
02:33:42,960 --> 02:33:40,800
seriously take things into consideration

3625
02:33:44,730 --> 02:33:42,970
that would be my endgame that would be

3626
02:33:46,349 --> 02:33:44,740
my perfect end game if science tomorrow

3627
02:33:47,880 --> 02:33:46,359
we would come and say okay we're gonna

3628
02:33:50,870 --> 02:33:47,890
just throw everything we got at this to

3629
02:33:55,590 --> 02:33:50,880
try to understand it I would retire

3630
02:33:57,710 --> 02:33:55,600
because I would have done my job what do

3631
02:34:00,360 --> 02:33:57,720
you think you have to do David Rountree

3632
02:34:02,580 --> 02:34:00,370
to make more scientists become

3633
02:34:07,950 --> 02:34:02,590
interested enough to take over the

3634
02:34:09,360 --> 02:34:07,960
research convince someone that there's

3635
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:09,370
something there that they can't explain

3636
02:34:18,360 --> 02:34:15,370
under the current situation yeah roughly

3637
02:34:21,150 --> 02:34:18,370
note we added to ideally yeah exactly

3638
02:34:24,210 --> 02:34:21,160
and and to get more and more people to

3639
02:34:27,690 --> 02:34:24,220
sit there and say yeah I got this result

3640
02:34:30,719 --> 02:34:27,700
- or yeah this is bad or - at least come

3641
02:34:35,429 --> 02:34:30,729
up with a plausible explanation for it

3642
02:34:38,610 --> 02:34:35,439
that's you know believable enviable and

3643
02:34:41,309 --> 02:34:38,620
provable that would be that would be my

3644
02:34:43,230 --> 02:34:41,319
thought all right you have a regular day

3645
02:34:46,200 --> 02:34:43,240
job yes

3646
02:34:48,030 --> 02:34:46,210
you go there every day or whatever what

3647
02:34:51,270 --> 02:34:48,040
do you how leagues think about what

3648
02:34:52,880 --> 02:34:51,280
you're doing I think it's pretty cool

3649
02:34:55,860 --> 02:34:52,890
actually

3650
02:34:57,540 --> 02:34:55,870
they do they they talk to me about all

3651
02:34:59,910 --> 02:34:57,550
sorts of things about personal

3652
02:35:01,559 --> 02:34:59,920
experiences they tell me friends they

3653
02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:01,569
know that have weird stuff going on in

3654
02:35:09,450 --> 02:35:06,210
their homes they actually literally

3655
02:35:11,910 --> 02:35:09,460
think it's I mean I'm kind of a you know

3656
02:35:13,940 --> 02:35:11,920
the entertainment factor is already kind

3657
02:35:17,219 --> 02:35:13,950
of theme you know

3658
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:17,229
oh here's Dave he he's a ghost hunter

3659
02:35:24,001 --> 02:35:19,690
you know it's like no I'm a true cutter

3660
02:35:26,730 --> 02:35:24,011
you get that a lot too but yeah I mean

3661
02:35:29,570 --> 02:35:26,740
they say I take it in stride I mean it's

3662
02:35:32,011 --> 02:35:29,580
it's a positive thing it's a good thing

3663
02:35:34,381 --> 02:35:32,021
you don't have people laughing at you

3664
02:35:37,980 --> 02:35:34,391
behind your back and saying Ah he runs

3665
02:35:39,150 --> 02:35:37,990
after ghosts look at that no because see

3666
02:35:41,730 --> 02:35:39,160
what happens is they'll come and they'll

3667
02:35:44,940 --> 02:35:41,740
ask me a question to try to like make a

3668
02:35:46,711 --> 02:35:44,950
fool of me or something and they're not

3669
02:35:50,430 --> 02:35:46,721
quite prepared for the answer that they

3670
02:35:54,091 --> 02:35:50,440
get or continue to get or continue to

3671
02:35:58,110 --> 02:35:54,101
get and it's like if you don't do the

3672
02:36:00,331 --> 02:35:58,120
work it's kind of hard to discuss

3673
02:36:03,541 --> 02:36:00,341
something that you're trying to make fun

3674
02:36:07,501 --> 02:36:03,551
of if you aren't fully hardened to

3675
02:36:09,360 --> 02:36:07,511
discuss it so the advantages is when you

3676
02:36:11,730 --> 02:36:09,370
do the work you don't need to be

3677
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:11,740
prepared because you've done the work

3678
02:36:15,661 --> 02:36:14,290
you know what you're defending and you

3679
02:36:19,110 --> 02:36:15,671
can throw it at them and say well then

3680
02:36:20,940 --> 02:36:19,120
explain bla bla bla bla bla and they

3681
02:36:23,640 --> 02:36:20,950
just kind of walk away and they don't

3682
02:36:26,341 --> 02:36:23,650
talk to you anymore one way to lose

3683
02:36:28,110 --> 02:36:26,351
friends and not influence people but

3684
02:36:32,371 --> 02:36:28,120
isn't that the way of a lot of skeptics

3685
02:36:35,730 --> 02:36:32,381
where you present facts to them and they

3686
02:36:37,230 --> 02:36:35,740
ignore you repeat their mantra and it

3687
02:36:39,301 --> 02:36:37,240
goes on of course this happens in

3688
02:36:42,150 --> 02:36:39,311
politics too so we're getting nowhere

3689
02:36:43,560 --> 02:36:42,160
with this David Rountree please tell our

3690
02:36:46,381 --> 02:36:43,570
listeners where they can find more of

3691
02:36:47,900 --> 02:36:46,391
the stuff that you work on well we have

3692
02:36:51,950 --> 02:36:47,910
a website

3693
02:36:55,501 --> 02:36:51,960
WWF investigations that's SP

3694
02:36:59,490 --> 02:36:55,511
investigation org it's you know all one

3695
02:37:01,470 --> 02:36:59,500
word specifications we have a little

3696
02:37:03,780 --> 02:37:01,480
tutorial there on quantum mechanics we

3697
02:37:06,301 --> 02:37:03,790
as it relates to paranormal effects we

3698
02:37:07,890 --> 02:37:06,311
have a research section we have an

3699
02:37:09,480 --> 02:37:07,900
equipment section about stuff we're

3700
02:37:11,671 --> 02:37:09,490
building and why we built in what it

3701
02:37:14,310 --> 02:37:11,681
does and and different stuff like that

3702
02:37:15,841 --> 02:37:14,320
and some theories and some other and

3703
02:37:18,421 --> 02:37:15,851
just neat information in there

3704
02:37:20,251 --> 02:37:18,431
it's a good place to go also my books

3705
02:37:22,261 --> 02:37:20,261
available their paranormal technology

3706
02:37:25,831 --> 02:37:22,271
understanding the science of ghost

3707
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:25,841
hunting which is becoming quickly the

3708
02:37:32,280 --> 02:37:29,530
Field Manual for people who are doing

3709
02:37:33,600 --> 02:37:32,290
paranormal investigating to understand

3710
02:37:35,940 --> 02:37:33,610
how their equipment works what

3711
02:37:36,660 --> 02:37:35,950
measures how to use it properly that

3712
02:37:39,270 --> 02:37:36,670
sort of stuff

3713
02:37:41,070 --> 02:37:39,280
and uh I've got huge presence on

3714
02:37:44,881 --> 02:37:41,080
Facebook you can google me there's

3715
02:37:48,390 --> 02:37:44,891
probably maybe 60,000 70,000 entries in

3716
02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:48,400
google maybe something like that my name

3717
02:37:53,011 --> 02:37:50,650
and paranormal and gobs stuff comes up

3718
02:37:55,051 --> 02:37:53,021
you know have fun they look at me they

3719
02:37:57,150 --> 02:37:55,061
look at whacko look at whacko and you're

3720
02:37:59,570 --> 02:37:57,160
fine gene Steinberg I'm kidding Chris

3721
02:38:02,671 --> 02:37:59,580
O'Brien is hard at work wrapping up

3722
02:38:05,041 --> 02:38:02,681
stalking the herd we have the site

3723
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:05,051
called stalking the herd comm which is

3724
02:38:09,270 --> 02:38:07,210
right now pointing to his main site our

3725
02:38:09,690 --> 02:38:09,280
strange planet calm but once the book is

3726
02:38:12,390 --> 02:38:09,700
out

3727
02:38:14,160 --> 02:38:12,400
he'll tailor that and give you more

3728
02:38:16,140 --> 02:38:14,170
information and updates about his book

3729
02:38:20,791 --> 02:38:16,150
you can also find us on Facebook there

3730
02:38:22,410 --> 02:38:20,801
are two para cast fan clubs and someday

3731
02:38:24,180 --> 02:38:22,420
there will be one when we figure out how

3732
02:38:27,001 --> 02:38:24,190
to do that with the same account we're

3733
02:38:29,430 --> 02:38:27,011
also known on Twitter as the para cast

3734
02:38:32,160 --> 02:38:29,440
where if you go to the para cast com you

3735
02:38:35,310 --> 02:38:32,170
can download each and every episode of

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the show all the way back in 2006 how

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about that

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David Roundtree thanks for joining us

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this week on the power cast thanks for

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having me on it it's always a pleasure

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[Music]

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the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

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and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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presentation of making the impossible